Originally Posted by matt_3479
Buano: i understand where your coming from about the zeiss having better glass but i found the leupold to have worse glass then my Viper.
To everyone else.
the reason i ask is cause my ranges are from 50-600 yards. i have had longer shot opportunities but i think 600 yards really opens a hole new view to hunting. I have lost multiple animals when being spotted at 500-600 yards and trying to sneak closer and cant. So i would like a scope to help me out.
I figured i would like to later on extend target and long range hunting to closer to a 1000 eventually when get the money for a long range rig so i figured a light tactical from a good company like vortex would be the answer. relitively light, good glass, solid company, good turrets.
I do not know which Leupolds you are comparing against. The VX3 scopes have rated better than Vipers on every test I've seen, even my own eyes. Optically they are superior. Whether they have the features you want is something to decide yourself. Older Leupolds are just that, older scopes that were produced with older technology, and these were not as good as the current VX3s.
If you are only talking 600 yards, your simplest option would be a Zeiss Conquest scope with the Rapid-Z 800 reticle. That will get you very close on shots to around 800 yards (depending on your ballistics) and you could always use the turrets if you had time to fine-tume your shot. The same could be said for the Swarovski Z-5 with the BRX reticle. Of course, if those are beyond your budget it's time to look at lesser choices.
Then there is the response you will get from many, that learning how to get closer to game is a large part of what becoming a good hunter is all about. I'm on both sides of that argument, using long-range weapons in some situations & getting up close & personal in others. To me it's important that I was challenged by a hunt, whatever the range.