Originally Posted by teddy12b
I'm right there with you on this. I've got a 110FP in 30-06 and I shoot the same targets at 1,000 yards as the guys showing up with a AI costing 5 times the money. It blows my mind that people downplay Savage rifles because they cost less. The most accurate out of the box rifle on the market since the invention of the accu-trigger has been the heavy barreled savage rifle. If they cost twice as much they'd still be a bargain compared to any remington that I've ever seen.
The first thing most guys do when they buy any rifle of any make change out the stocks to something that suits them better. I've got a savage mark II FV-SR wearing a boyds tacticool, a 10FP-SR in 223 wearing a medalist, and the 110FP I mentioned above is in a duramaxx. Any of these rifles will outshoot or at worst be a close second accuracy wise to any comparable rifle from any other manufacturer.
I'll be happy to show up with my savages 30-06 and outshoot whatever other brand you're planning on buying. I'll even let you take my rifle for a test drive and fire as many rounds as you'd like.
Please show me the AI's that you are referring to that cost 5x as much, if you are talking about caliber. If that's the case, calibers are a personal preference thing, and cannot really be measured by a cost to shoot basis, in my opinion. Also, handloading for any caliber puts them all about on the same level until you get into the comparing short-actions vs long actions vs magnums vs ultra magnums.
If you are referring to AI, as in Accuracy International rifles, then I will agree with your statement. You don't need a $6,000 rifle to shoot 1,000 yards.
Savage is not the most accurate out of the box rifle there is.....Please prove that statement. I'm not saying that anything else is better, I'm just curious what facts you have to support such a claim, other than your personal experiences, that none of us know.
Savage does not get bagged on because of what they cost. And if someone does bag on them for what they cost, that is simply immature.
They usually get bagged on because of people making comments like you did. The Accutrigger is not that great, I know alot of Savage shooters that remove them for aftermarkets. The Remington X-Mark Pro is also a POS, and should have never been allowed to leave the prototype stage.
I am not being brand-biased, I just want to see solid facts for the claims you are making to this man, who is asking questions.
Fact is that Remington Sendero and 5R MilSpec rifles have proven themselves for decades now. That's where my recommendations come from....Also from my personal many years of hands-on experience with each of those weapons (11 years for Senderos, and 4 years with the 5R MilSpecs)...I also don't lie about performance. I have shot plenty of Remingtons over the years that wouldn't group...But most of the ones I shot would right out of the box. And others might have needed a little tuning or TLC to make shoot good.