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Old 09-29-2013, 06:50 PM
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Is something wrong with my rifle?

I've deer hunted with a Rem 700 270 since I was a kid. It's always had the same old Leupold VX-2 3x9 on it and its always shot where I aimed it. I recently bought another Rem 700 but this one is the XCR2 in 300 WM. I mounted a Viper PST 6-24 (2nd focal plane) on it. I went to shoot it for the second time today and I'm a little frustrated. On the 1st outing, I tried, to the best of my ability, to follow the barrel break in regimen. Well, after probably 70-80 rounds, the gun will not shoot in the same place twice. With Remington Core Lok 180 gr., it does ok at best. With Hornady Superformance 180 gr., it's a 3-4 in group at 40 yds. I'm shooting off of a Lead Sled and I can't imagine how the gun could be any steadier. I've read (mostly here) that certain ammunitions shoot better in certain guns. I get that. Maybe I haven't tried the right one but should it be that bad? It does have that ole cheap plastic stock on it. Could that be the problem? It just seems, at least to a layman like me, that custom stocks and Timney triggers are a little over board for someone who's longest deer kill is about 250 yds. Any advice? Thanks a lot.
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:20 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

if it were me, i'd start at the start.

1) pull it out of the stock & check the bedding area, lug, etc
2) tighten everything (torque wrench is mandatory for me on action bolts, base screws, and scope rings)
3) dry fire a bunch to make sure i'm liking the trigger, while i-
4) make sure the bolt closes securely & operates smoothly

if it feels & operates correctly after this,

5) bore sight it again at 25-50 yards.
6) put a few through the 22 before i shot for groups- just to make sure i'm not flinching
7) take my time & focus on the basics when shooting it
8) run a box test on the scope to make sure it's not the problem
9) shoot a video of me shooting if i was still unsure whether or not it was me

and if all that didn't help-

10) take it to Glen
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:35 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

That rifle should shoot much more like 3" at 200yd, since you are using a lead sled that pretty well kicks a flinching issue. Everything the guy prior to me said holds true. Double check the tightness of everything, sounds like you've got a loose scope or you're scope is internally broken. Keep us updated
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Old 09-29-2013, 07:38 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

Good advice so far..... torque scope base and rings... and stock screws. With that said I have had a fair number of Remington 700s and I don't think any of them shot very good with factory ammo. I have a .270 from when I was a kid and it wouldn't do better than 3-4" at 100 yards with factory ammo. When I started reloading it went down to a .75" gun....
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:08 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

I'd start with the scope, then I would try the scope, and then I would move on to the scope!!
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:38 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

FWIW in my opinion I suggest not using lead sled. I'd get prone with bipod and rear bag and shoot it. This is how I do load development and zeroing of scopes these days, started this about 3 years ago,for me even steadier and more comfortable than shooting from bench. I have never used a lead sled but have witnessed a few guys at local range and saw some unusual results.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:43 PM
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Re: Is something wrong with my rifle?

Thanks for the input y'all. I mounted the scope. That could be the problem. I methodically mounted it on a 20MOA picatinney rail that I bedded to the reciever. The only thing I didn't do was use a torque wrench. I tried to tighten the screws, as best I could, to the same tension. Like I said before, the only experience I've had, prior to this, was with my old CDL 270 and the Leupold 3x9. That thing shoots lights out. Without the torque wrench, maybe temporarilly putting another scope on it will, at least, signal as to whether the scope is defective. I've always been an avid shotgunner and this is definitely new territory. Thanks a lot for y'all's help. It's still hard for me to come up with the right questions to ask. Obsessing.
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