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Old 11-01-2009, 12:17 PM
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Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

Hi, I'm looking for a bit of guidance from some experienced guys. I hope this is the right spot, but if not please direct me.

I have a 30-06 and a 300WSM. the 300wsm was won last yr. , but I don't have the money to put the scope I want on the 300wsm yet, so it sits in my gun cabinet waiting for the future. I want to start piecing together the necessary equipment/setup and training necessary to hunt long distances (600-1000yds).

The first step I took was to take up reloading, which I'm in the process of gathering the gear. I will start reloading with my 30-06 because I can shoot that gun as soon as get the equipment.

I will likely shoot the 30-06 up to about 600yds, but will save the 300 for shots longer than that. What grain bullet do you recommend for shooing deer/elk? I've been shooting 150 and 165 for years out of a factory load. How many grains of powder is recommended and what type is best for these distances? A friend suggested I buy Berger VLD 168gn bullets and put them in the 30-06 load, but berger's website recomends only the .308 gun and 30-06 isn't listed, does that mean that I shouldn't shoot those in my 30-06?

Also, the bullet size for the 30-06 is .308 and the bullet size for the 300wsm also says its .308, I presume I could buy the same bullets and load them into both the 30-06 and the 300wsm, correct?

As you can see, I sort of know what I'm asking, but because I'm a newbie I'm a bit clueless...any help will be appreciated.

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Old 11-01-2009, 02:35 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

I suggest two things. Buy a reloading manual. There is a lot of information in the first few chapters. I would also search this web site and ready as many of the post related to reloading as you can find. There is a lot of good info. On this site.
A third thing would be continue what you just did - do not be affraid to ask lots of questions.

Good luck.
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:39 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

I just noticed you're new to the site.
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:40 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

also call burger bullets their tecs will have load recommendations. I have always called the manufacturers when I have questions concerning their products. They know their stuff the best and are usually very helpful. I sure they have data for the 30-06 it just may not be posted.
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Old 11-01-2009, 02:52 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

Welcome to the addiction zone. Here you will find all the answers or at least most of the answers that you seek. My first suggestion is to purchase a good manual. My suggestion would be the Lee manual or the Lyman. Both offer good advice and instruction in the early pages. As with any loading you need to take great care in powder safety and handling. Make sure you always start your loads 1 to 2 grains below max to make sure that you work up to your rifles max in pressure. Pressure signs include, ejector marks, caved primers, and a sticky bolt lift.

In truth, your 30-06 is a good rifle to get you out to 800yrds easy. Popular bullet to use for taking heavy game at long distance in your rifle would be 175 to 190 grain bullet. The best design for this type of shooting is a boat tail type bullet. Sierra, Berger, and Nosler all have excellent bullets for this application. Hornady offers the Boat Tail Hollow Point as well as the A-Max that will give you the ballistics necessary for long kills. The 06 has enough heft to get it to where you want it to go. As far as load is concerned, you have to start with something and go with it. Each rifle is different, and will allow different levels of pressure. One rifle might shoot a load of Hogdon's H4350 @55 grains of powder and another rifle may not. In theory you want to use a slower burning powder for the heavier bullets.

Each rifle is different. I know some others here can give you powder charges for your 06. As far as the .308 nomenclature. That is the caliber diameter for 30 caliber rifles. It means the bullet should be .308" of an inch in diameter. A 6mm bullet is the same as a .243 Winchester because it is the same diameter.

Other components to consider is primers. Each primer has a specific purpose. There is large rifle which is the CCBR2, CCI 200, Federal 210, Federal 210m <never find that one right now), Remington 7 1/2, and Winchester WLR, and Wolf Large Rifle. This is the primer size you will need to use for your 30-06. Some guys may offer a suggestion to use a magnum primer which can be used, just increases cases pressure. Believe it or not, you'll probably find that your 300WSM will shoot better using a large rifle primer instead of a magnum primer.

When you get to loading the 300, than I can help with charges and bullet selection.

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Old 11-01-2009, 06:02 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

Thanks for the replies and thanks for the welcome. I'll certainly go through as much of the other forum posts as I can or as much as the wife allows me to spend time on!

I got the Lee Breech Lock Challenger Kit as a birthday gift, it will be here sometime this week. It doesn't say in the description, but I would assume it comes with a manual. If it doesn't what reloading manuals would you recommend?


liltank, What do you have for your 300wsm specs that you would recommend? Also, is it likely that I'll have a totally separate spec setup for the 30-06 and the 300wsm...in other words, will I save money being able to reuse the same components from your experience, or do most guns simply have their own personality and I simply need to figure out what it is and match it accordingly?

What scopes do you guys prefer for reaching out to those distances and do you recommend using a turret?

Thanks.
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Old 11-01-2009, 06:37 PM
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Re: Some guidance so I don't blow myself up...

Both my 338rum and 300win like h-1000 and CCI primers. The 338 shoots well with 225 grain accubonds - the 300 shoots well with 200 grain ballistic tips. My 30-06 likes h-4831, federal primers and 168gr sierra game kings. The 338 and the 30-06 wear leupold 3.5x10 VxIII scopes - the 300 wears a Zeis 4.5x14 conquest with rapid z-800 reticule.
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