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Old 01-17-2013, 11:49 PM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

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I got nothing against the 338L it is a fantastic round for the right people.
that's a perfect way of putting it!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:56 PM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

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that's a perfect way of putting it!
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I would have a look at the Win model 70 coyote light in 7WSM. I think that the weight of the gun will help will recoil and overall shootablility. You probably wont need a break or supressor (though supressors are pretty cool)
Speaking of a perfect statement.... This is about as good as it gets Stephen. I would take this advice and run with it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:20 AM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

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Congratulations to her on making a great shot, I bet she knows what she is doing and 7mag recoil doesn't bother her either....

SRHeer said he was new to LRH, doesn't like recoil and noise much, and wants instant one shot kills... I guess we don't know what long range is to him, 300, 600, 1,200?? What he chooses should depend on his self imposed limits.

I've watched a few whitetail bucks run for miles on 3 legs with only half their guts still intact with 300RUM's pounding away, my point was find a rifle you can shoot well, know your limitations, pick your shot, and for most people starting out in LRH thats not a 338 Lapua. I hate it when it sounds like I'm preaching cause I'm really not.

I got nothing against the 338L it is a fantastic round for the right people.
Having shot Broz 338 Lapua I can assure you the recoil is no where near a 7mag, I shoot 270's that will thump you more than the 338's I shoot. I experience very pleasant recoil, zero muzzle blast with a little bit more noise with the 338's I shoot but a good set of ear muffs and the sounds is easy going. A set of ear plugs and a set of quality ear muffs and a guy would burn through a lot of ammo shooting a properly built 338 Lapua!!! A suppressed 338 Lapua and ear muffs would be about as awesome as it gets!
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:44 AM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

Having recently added a 338 Lapua to my stable, I'd agree with prior posts that the 338 is an "acquired taste'. While its incredibly accurate, with tolerable recoil, based on your comments you could be better served with one of the 300 magnums. Sitting on top of a ridge with a 15 pound rig all day is one thing but lugging it around to any extent...... it gets old fast. 10 bucks a shot is an added bonus IMHO
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Having recently added a 338 Lapua to my stable, I'd agree with prior posts that the 338 is an "acquired taste'. While its incredibly accurate, with tolerable recoil, based on your comments you could be better served with one of the 300 magnums. Sitting on top of a ridge with a 15 pound rig all day is one thing but lugging it around to any extent...... it gets old fast. 10 bucks a shot is an added bonus IMHO

I am sorry.. did you mean .10 bucks a shot? I am confused at that last part. Maybe I am having a *"Duh"* moment but I am confused! haha

I know the .338 is about 1.40 a shot if you handload for it!

Im sorry guys, I just dont see why a high powered .30cal wouldnt do ANYTHING a .338 would do under 1000 yards. I love the cartridge and most guys live and die by it but in terms of cost and recoil..I just dont understand picking the .338 over one of the 300 mags. 300Win Ammo is just as plentiful (if not more plentiful) as .338 ammo if he does not hand load. If he does then he will still pay less to load one of the .300's.

He is over 50 (if I understood your PM's correctly, Stephen. I am sorry if I got that wrong) and doesnt want something thats going to break his shoulder whether it be carrying the rifle or shooting it. He also doesnt like the BLAST so he wants a suppressor to stick on the end of it instead of a brake.
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Old 01-18-2013, 06:35 AM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

[quote=ishootkittens;749432]I am sorry.. did you mean .10 bucks a shot? I am confused at that last part. Maybe I am having a *"Duh"* moment but I am confused! haha

I know the .338 is about 1.40 a shot if you handload for it!

Im sorry guys, I just dont see why a high powered .30cal wouldnt do ANYTHING a .338 would do under 1000 yards. I love the cartridge and most guys live and die by it but in terms of cost and recoil..I just dont understand picking the .338 over one of the 300 mags. 300Win Ammo is just as plentiful (if not more plentiful) as .338 ammo if he does not hand load. If he does then he will still pay less to load one of the .300's.

He is over 50 (if I understood your PM's correctly, Stephen. I am sorry if I got that wrong) and doesnt want something thats going to break his shoulder whether it be carrying the rifle or shooting it. He also doesnt like the BLAST so he wants a suppressor to stick on the end of it instead of a brake.[/quote

Yes, my error, a buck a shot, sorry, I shouldn't type after midnight! Anyway, i like to shoot a lot, and the 338 racks it up pretty quick.I agree with your logic. Don't get me wrong, I like the the 338, but I'm over 60 and lugging a crowbar around gets old. I like it for stationary shooting at the extended ranges.beyond 1000 yards. I also think that it takes a lot more skill, with a smaller margin of error in the way of shooting technique to achieve top accuracy over the lighter calibers, even with a brake. My primary rifle is a 6.5x284, but I hunted for years with the big 30's. Put that bullet on the right place and they do the job on the larger animals like elk just fine. IMHO,
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:42 AM
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Re: Solution for elk hunting delema - 338 Lapua?

Guys its like this. I love my 300 win. You all have read my posts. We have taken many elk with it, several last season including a large bull of my own. The 300 win did a great job with the 215 Bergers. That said I know what kills elk fast. If you want them DRT your odds are better with a large fragmenting bullet. I watch elk fall every year, some years up to 2 dozen. The smaller caliber will kill them just fine with good placement. But if you want to increase your odds that they won't take a step hit them with a .338. There is no way a 168, 180 or 200 gr bullet will hammer them like a 300 gr. will.


As for my wife being tough,,, You couldn't be more wrong there. She worries about everything and hates the thought of a kicking rifle. She has taken 3 elk. First one was the 300 win with a 210 Berger, second was the pictured one with the 338 LM and last season she took another with the 300 win and a 215 Berger as I sold the Lapua to build a bigger 338. All her elk were one shot kills. She had no complaint of recoil, and no hearing protection was worn. If you are out in the open the noise is simply not that bad. If you are next to a truck or rock or something I would be putting in some plugs.

My wife does not practice much. But she listens to me and she knows the importance of a solid rest and breaking the trigger. It she can shoot a 338 LM with a 300 gr bullet anyone can.

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