Location: The rifle range, or archery range or behind the computer in Alaska
Re: Simple question about Rem700 actions.
It depends what you want to do with it.
If you want to "top load" only get the adl. If you want to load and unload from the bottom via a hinged floor plate, get the bdl.
Long range shooting is a process that ends with a result. Once you start to focus on the result (how bad your last shot was, how big the group is going to be, what your buck will score, what your match score is, what place you are in...) then you loose the capacity to focus on the process.
As long as the trigger and action are the same, I think I am gonna start looking for a ADL, with a Magnum action. I saw a few at a gun shop for around 300 bucks, and thought this was a descent deal.
As far as loading from the top, I don't know why, maybe I am old fascioned, but I never unload from the bottom, I used to use and old mauser that the floor plate didn't open, and I got used to it, and the last 10 years. I didn't change. LOL
I believe that Remingtons quality varies with price. My Sendero that I bought has a silky smooth action with very little play.
The BDL has been almost as smooth but seems to have more slop in it and the last ADL I bought was sloppy and very rough. This is based only from what I have seen and may be only that chance had it that way but I still believe that the price dictates the qualty of what you get from Remington. I will believe this until I see otherwise. If you are going to do a custom job why not get a custom action. The price won't be that much different by the time you true the Remington.
I know that custom actions are great. but...every custom action I have been able to find for a magnum size cartridge starts at $1000-1300. add a barrel ($400), stock ($400-500) a scope ($500-850)plus smithing to put these together and your looking at a very expensive custom shooting rifle. even if a $300 rifle was bought and some smithing was done, I still can't see where a custom action is just as economical.
I bought a sporterized 1917 enfield in 30-06. paid $225. best groups were around 1 1/2-2 inches. decided to have a 458 win mag built out of it. much smithing was done to accomodate this cartridge and a new 26" barrel was added, trigger worked on, and the original stock was glass bedded, re-enforced, mercury recoil reducer added in butt, pachmyer decellerator pad added. cost me $450. gun shoots 3/8 groups with the large 500gr hornady roundnose. I now have a $675 tack driving big bore (not my intention).
I am currently looking at something on a 338 long range. custom actions are very nice but not what I would call an economical choice. unless someone can shed some light on this for me.
by the way, the Hall actions seem very nice.
300 RUM and a 458 win mag...what more can a man want!
Tim, the guy who shot the 1 mile 10.93" group with his Savage 7WSM was at the Arizona 1k BR range this last match.
A friend wrote and told me about the match: We had a guy from Minnesota shoot with us today, quite a shooter indeed. He has the 1 mile 5 shot group record shot in the Iowa shoot, 10.93", I think crowmag told us about him on LRH. Has a 7mm WSM shooting 180gr Bergers in a Savage action with a 30" Hart barrel in an 8" barrel block bedded in a homemade stock that shoots like a house afire, has $800 in the rifle without scope and mounts. He took Heavy gun group and score agg. and small group with a 7" 10 shot group, his agg. was 7.74". He also has shot a prairie dog at something like 2125yds.
Tim is using a factory 7 WSM! He said his buddy built a full blown custom for $4200 and his shoots just as good, sometimes better. He also said that it shoots just about every bullet and powder real well, he must have got one of those special barrels that we all wish we had.
I've got three remingtons here and I can say mine are all about the same, no sendaro's, an ADL, BDL and BDL M7. If anything, my ADL is slightly slicker. My buddy has 3 BDL's, in 300wm, 300 Ultra, 338 Ultra and they're all the same. I don't think remington changes the machining for any model, maybe the custom shops, but they're probably just hand selected from the same runs.
Truing an action does bring the price up, how much depends on the smith, but it still leaves quite a bit a money left verses buying a custom in the 1k range. If I don't even shop for good deal, and just pick an ADL up at wally-world for $400, I've still got $600 left for a barrel, truing, extractor, stock, or what ever else you don't already have, heck, you might already have the action, which is where a lot of guys are at and why the remington, winchester, or savage is so appealing verses the custom. http://www.batactions.com/