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Old 08-18-2012, 03:18 PM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

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I use a modified lead sled mostly during load development. Once satisfied, I shoot it in prone (my most likely shooting position afield and w/ bipod) and make necessary adjustments as required.
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I LOVE my sled for load development, but as soon as I stretch its legs, it's prone with bipods, & rear bag.
Nothing at all wrong with using a sled. As long as your consistant in your mounting, & shooting technique, & everything is repeatable, it's easy to tell what your rifle likes or doesn't while developing loads. Its simply another tool for taking away variables, & helping with consistancy. A 1/4" longer length of pull doesn't really mean squat shooting off a bench. I adjust my seat hight accordingly for comfort & consistant cheekweld. Repeatability, & consistancy is everything for accuracy.

Once I've narrowed down what my rifle likes, it's on to the prone position, & distance for fine tuning, without my sled.
Building a comfy shooting position, that is repeatable is just as important here, & I find it much easier without any rests etc. except bi-pod & bag. Not to mention its simulating real hunting positions etc.
I will say however, that practice shooting at distance while prone in the back of my pickup is much easier than picking a clear line of fire thru sagebrush, & grass, eventhough it's not simulating real hunting I find it quite comfy, & as long as the muzle brake is PAST THE END OF THE BED, it's quite a pleasant experience.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:05 PM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

First off you should have bought yourself something like a .260 Rem, 7mm-08, or a .308. You stated that you got an idiot cut with a 7WSM, and now you go get yourself a .300WSM. You should have went down in caliber IMO. I have seen too many guys not hold their rifles tight to the shoulder (or they put it on the ball and socket) and shoot. When they fire, the rifle has room to travel before hitting the shoulder and before it hits the shoulder the scope makes contact with the shooter's forehead.
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Old 08-18-2012, 05:43 PM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

I guess I'm an idiot to. I've got a scab on my nose from experimenting with a loose hold. It happens about once a year from experimenting with hold & position. Maybe I should sell off everything and stick to 22' shorts.
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Old 08-18-2012, 11:48 PM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

I am not calling anyone an "idiot", it is what I heard it called ever since I was a small kid. A scope cut was called an idiot mark or cut. The poster stated that without a Lead sled he would get hit in his glasses with a 7 WSM last year, and this year he goes with a .300 WSM. Kind of doesn't make sense. Oh, and by the way I also have scar above my right eye (you guessed it, from an old "Idiot Cut").
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Old 08-22-2012, 06:17 AM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

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I am not calling anyone an "idiot", it is what I heard it called ever since I was a small kid. A scope cut was called an idiot mark or cut. The poster stated that without a Lead sled he would get hit in his glasses with a 7 WSM last year, and this year he goes with a .300 WSM. Kind of doesn't make sense. Oh, and by the way I also have scar above my right eye (you guessed it, from an old "Idiot Cut").
It wasnt the power of the gun that caused me to be wacked...ive been shooting shotguns 12/10gage all my life. That includes turkey hunting and deer hunting with scopes. It was the awkward position the crappy holder put me in and the fact that I was using bigger shooting glasses. If I wasnt wearing glasses, the scope wouldnt have even hit me. I was just saying, what positions do you all like...other than a lead sled....what is the best way to keep the reticle(cross hairs) as still as possible....I am not talking breathing control hear...simply put...I am asking what positions do you all use to sight your gun in. I will mostly be standing in a tree or sitting with a gun rest.
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Old 08-22-2012, 08:34 AM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

The best I've found is when both ends of the rifle are on solid footing. Bipod on the front and bag on the rear. With this set up there is no heart beat. Any time the butt is not supported SOLIDLY as in kneeling/sitting/standing my effective range is greatly reduced. This includes any kind of tripod or center pivot arrangement. The PA boys do some serious LRH with special rests set up on heavy surveyor type tripods. I haven't tried those . . . yet.
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Old 08-22-2012, 10:13 AM
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Re: Sighting in rifle WITH-OUT lead sled

Harris bipods and a sock filled with rice as a rear bag. And if I get stuck in the woods, I can eat the rice, even if it is dry it is still nutritional. Seems to work.
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