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Old 01-01-2013, 09:16 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

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Assaults can be felonies or misdemeanors. The penalties for assault vary and are dependent upon several factors:

The severity and nature of the assault
The presence of mitigating circumstances
Prior convictions
Age of the victim
If the victim was providing lawful medical or therapeutic treatment
If the victim was a police officer

Penalties may include:

Jail time
Severe fines
Probation
Anger management classes
Loss of right to possess firearms
Loss of voting rights



Glad your clients gave you ataboys for breaking the law. I fail to see where you should be rewarded for such behavior, and your display of audacity by stating you would repeat the offense.

A few fries short of a happy meal.
Good luck with that on a guys home turf which is how this all got started. Hmmm I live here and drink coffee with all of the locals. Yep my jail time is coming quick. Be kinda like me walking into Idabel or wherever you are and starting some trouble. Not too smart on my part.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:22 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

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Good luck with that on a guys home turf which is how this all got started. Hmmm I live here and drink coffee with all of the locals. Yep my jail time is coming quick. Be kinda like me walking into Idabel or wherever you are and starting some trouble. Not too smart on my part.
Home turf doesn't take away from the fact that you hit him. That is the point, not that you didn't get in trouble. Big deal, you smoked a guy with a cheapshot and didnt get in trouble, you sound like a jackass.

You might find this hard to believe, but I'd venture out to say that most people who use your services or any guides services aren't relying on you to keep them alive.... there expecting you to put them on an animal. Your full of yourself and it shows.

I guess i'll be 3rd in line waiting for the name of your guide service so I know where NOT to go. Bueler.........
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:27 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

Felony assault? What planet do you live on? I am in a town with 700 people. There are 900 in the whole county. I told the guy to stop and he didnt. Im pretty sure every cop in town has heard the story. Felony assault might fly in your world but around here we call it gettin slugged. I knew I lived in a bassackwards redneck area but I didnt realize that you guys are all lawyer huggers.
Paying a guide does not give you the right to act like an idiot or in an unethical or unsafe manner. If you think it does you need to reflect a little.
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Remember the advice you are giving that you got off of the internet and don't REALLY KNOW works might cause a miss or a wounded animal or a dead hunter. Please for the sports sake be 100% sure when you post something.
Per the NRA "long range STARTS at 600".
If your gun kicks get a brake....and some muffs. Unless your a masochist then its ok. Except you won't shoot as well.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:33 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

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Felony assault? What planet do you live on? I am in a town with 700 people. There are 900 in the whole county. I told the guy to stop and he didnt. Im pretty sure every cop in town has heard the story. Felony assault might fly in your world but around here we call it gettin slugged. I knew I lived in a bassackwards redneck area but I didnt realize that you guys are all lawyer huggers.
Paying a guide does not give you the right to act like an idiot or in an unethical or unsafe manner. If you think it does you need to reflect a little.
You're right, how could I forget small bassackward towns have a special exemption from the rest of the written laws. My bad.......

You actually said something smart there, I think you may want to take your own advice. Because being a guide does not and I'll use your words "does not give you the right to act like an idiot or in an unethical or unsafe manner. If you think it does you need to reflect a little."

Please, take all the time you need to reflect on what you've done and said. Happy new year Toddc.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:38 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

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Home turf doesn't take away from the fact that you hit him. That is the point, not that you didn't get in trouble. Big deal, you smoked a guy with a cheapshot and didnt get in trouble, you sound like a jackass.

You might find this hard to believe, but I'd venture out to say that most people who use your services or any guides services aren't relying on you to keep them alive.... there expecting you to put them on an animal. Your full of yourself and it shows.

I guess i'll be 3rd in line waiting for the name of your guide service so I know where NOT to go. Bueler.........
Youre not relying on guide to keep you alive? Check those treestand steps yourself didya? Point is you as a client dont have carte blanche to act like an idiot just cuz you wrote a check. Guy got hit because for all I knew he was gonna keep bangin till the clip was empty and shoot me a cow or a giraffe for all I knew.
Put yourself in this situation and think about a guy with a rifle 2 ft away from you that wont cease fire. He was swinging for another shot and I slugged him. Verbal commands did not work so now what?
Strange to me that its ok for a guy to disobey a cease fire command screamed into his ear from 2 ft but its not ok to stop him. I didnt want to grab the gun so you geniuses tell me what you guys would do?
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Remember the advice you are giving that you got off of the internet and don't REALLY KNOW works might cause a miss or a wounded animal or a dead hunter. Please for the sports sake be 100% sure when you post something.
Per the NRA "long range STARTS at 600".
If your gun kicks get a brake....and some muffs. Unless your a masochist then its ok. Except you won't shoot as well.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:49 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

Laywer huggers!!!!

I'll bet dollers to donuts that if he would have shook it off and dropped you.... just cuz you're a backwoods redneck.... you would be the first one on hold at your lawyers office in the morning. Pretty sure your local "police friends" wouldn't laugh it off...

Unless...they probably knew you had it comming...then they'd laugh it off.
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Old 01-01-2013, 09:50 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

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Youre not relying on guide to keep you alive? Check those treestand steps yourself didya? Point is you as a client dont have carte blanche to act like an idiot just cuz you wrote a check. Guy got hit because for all I knew he was gonna keep bangin till the clip was empty and shoot me a cow or a giraffe for all I knew.
Put yourself in this situation and think about a guy with a rifle 2 ft away from you that wont cease fire. He was swinging for another shot and I slugged him. Verbal commands did not work so now what?
Strange to me that its ok for a guy to disobey a cease fire command screamed into his ear from 2 ft but its not ok to stop him. I didnt want to grab the gun so you geniuses tell me what you guys would do?
I'll step back from our discussion to address your new question.

What would I do?

IF, I was a guide. It would be for a few reasons.

1. I know how to hunt,scout and plan for my area. As well as be able to protect the hunter from the elements and other hazards of hunting.
2. I know how to work with a wide variety of people because if my services are as a guide, I realize that I may encounter people from all walks of life. Therefore I would also be a great (or decent) judge of character.
3. I would also have a screening process, as Im sure you already do to weed out people with the wrong attitude. Because from my knowledge of being able to work with people I would realize that not every Tom, Dick or Harry with enough money to use my services would be mentally able to handle a hunt that could very well kill us both.

With that being said, I would of talked with this person as soon as he scheduled the hunt. By doing that, I would of realized (by your admittance) that he was not mentally fit. BUT, if he passed the pre-screen before the hunt. I would of addressed the disrespect as soon as he showed it. First a verbal warning and then if he did it again, the hunt would be called off. I would also include this in the fine print of the signed agreement.

Could be way off base, as I'm not a guide like yourself. That's my personal response without any of our differences involved. Just from the information I already have.
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