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Old 01-01-2013, 03:48 PM
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shooting a running deer

Hi,

I am new to Long Range Hunting and this is my first post.
My question:
Does anyone have experience with success in shooting running deer ?
I have heard many different ways to shoot a running deer, the problem is
they all conflict with one another.

The last thing I want to do is wound a deer, so I have restrained from
shooting running deer.
Any tips would be appreciated.

Thank you,
duke
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:21 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

If you cannot practice the scenario, dont do it when you hunt. If you have a range with fast movers, and you can put them on a killzone sized target every time, your good to go. Most cant do that. Most that say that they can, cant.
If you have more than a 4 power scope on the bottom end, toss the idea out.

I use scopes that have a low bottom end magnifacation. I practice "swinging" on a stationary target with a rimfire in the off season, as well as instict shooting. I very rarely do it, and when I do its very close, a follow up shot, anchoring shot (ie, moose running into a swamp), or running straight at me. The biggest thing is to be 100% sure that the shot is going to be a kill shot and its safe.

So I guess what I'm saying is that it's best to not take the shot, but to practice for when its needed.

Since this is a Long range forum, I will say that there is no reason to shoot at game on the run at long range. There are enough variables with long range hunting, adding lead time and target velocity/direction is just to much to handle.
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Old 01-01-2013, 04:40 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

angus-5024,

Thank you for your input.

The main reason I posted this subject is, there have been times when I have
encountered nice bucks less then 100 yards while heading for my stand, or
that have been pushed for some reason.

I have an idea of using old tires rolled down a small hill to practice with.
Of course the center is filled in with a piece of card board with a 10"
target.
I can obtain various speeds by simply moving further up the hill, but you do need
a buddy to help. I have not tried this yet due to the weather.
What do you think of the tire idea.?
Thank you,
duke
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Old 01-01-2013, 05:09 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

I would be hesitant with the tire thing, just because I was taught that nobody is to be infront of your muzzle, even if its 50 yards off. I have often tried to think something up using a steel wire and a cable dolly, but for the amount of work it would be I cant justify it.

If I was you i would set up a paper plate or gong at 50 yards on a stick about 2" off the ground. with a rimfire (cheapest), start swinging on to the target and dont stop through the shot. when you can put most of them in the center"ish" of the plate get an old ball (basket ball size) and build a pendulum style target. shoot the swinging ball in the same fashion.
Thinking up these kind of games is the best type of practice that I know of. I still dont recomend shooting game on the run unless you need to. I do understand that not all terrain allows for good set ups and running shots might be your only way to get a good one.

a rimfire and a buch of games like this can really make you an excellent shot.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:23 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

I have a 100% guaranteed way to NEVER MISS A RUNNING SHOT!!!!!

Don't pull the trigger. Simple isn't it?

Ask yourself a few questions. Why am I always seeing running deer? Why wouldnt I just try to stop them instead of a hail mary wounding shot?

If you are seeing deer running often there is something wrong with your hunting not your shooting. Figure that out first. Then learn to stop them. I use a nasal kinda fawn sound or a whistle or hell a yell if needed. Its better to try to stop them and fail than just start blasting.

That being said the best running practice is a coyote. If not I have seen pulleys rigged to vehicles and other means for movers. MMost g uys who are good wingshots can shoot running. Back in the day I shot a lotta jackrabbits also which I got pretty good at. Luckily the experience required to get good at running shots will teach you they arent worth taking much past 100yds or at unwounded game.

Learn to not be in the situation in the first place and learn to stop them when running. I can stop the majority of deer with some kind of sound just keep yackin till they lock up.

How strongly do I feel about no running shots? Client of mine missed a 5x5 at 90 yds standing. He takes off hauling ass and I yell at the client "dont shoot him running". He does anyway and I knock him out about 2 seconds after the shot. He's lucky I didnt leave him in that crp field for good. He wants to CHASE a gutshot deer in 4 ft tall little blue.(little bluestem is dark red), I tell him uhhh no you are going home and the coyotes will find him for us. He didnt like that. About 2:30 am I hear yotes and by the time I get there sure enough the gutshot deer is scattered over 2 acres and this jackass wants to kill another one. Luckily my business partner peeled me off of the guy and sent him home 3 days early.

In some parts of the US I realize deer drives and such are "traditional". So I wont bash anyone for shooting running game if you grew up doing it. However it is a carryover from a bygone era when deer were nothing more than walking steaks. I didnt even shoot running when I shot control. Any deer will at some point stop running. When he does, kill him. If he does'nt it just wasnt meant to be.

Stopping a runner is much more effective than blasting away. Carry a predator call or grunter or whistle or horn and use it to stop them.
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:35 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

So let me get this right, shooting at a running deer is unethical (which I agree with unless your capable), but punching a client and not even trying to find a wounded deer is?
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Old 01-01-2013, 06:47 PM
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Re: shooting a running deer

"I have a 100% guaranteed way to NEVER MISS A RUNNING SHOT!!!!!

Don't pull the trigger. Simple isn't it?

Ask yourself a few questions. Why am I always seeing running deer? Why wouldnt I just try to stop them instead of a hail mary wounding shot?

If you are seeing deer running often there is something wrong with your hunting not your shooting. Figure that out first. Then learn to stop them. I use a nasal kinda fawn sound or a whistle or hell a yell if needed. Its better to try to stop them and fail than just start blasting.

That being said the best running practice is a coyote. If not I have seen pulleys rigged to vehicles and other means for movers. MMost g uys who are good wingshots can shoot running. Back in the day I shot a lotta jackrabbits also which I got pretty good at. Luckily the experience required to get good at running shots will teach you they arent worth taking much past 100yds or at unwounded game."


LET'S SET THIS RECORD STRAIGHT:

First off, I have hunted all my life and lost one nice buck and it still haunts me.

Second. I hunt BUCKS only and I shoot only when I'm sure it is a CLEAN KILL
I NEVER BLAST AWAY.

Third. I don't see many running bucks, but would like to be able to
make a clean kill if i decided to shoot, which I have refrained from doing.

I am a hunter not a killer. I or my companions will not tolerate a killer in or midst
The termination of any animal that can feel pain deserves the greatest respect
nothing less will do.

LAST: I have hunted all over North America and have harvested many trophy
class bucks and I TAKE OFFENSE TO YOU COMMENTS SIR.

duke
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