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Old 07-04-2003, 09:49 AM
 
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SHARPS 45-70

ANYBODY EVER PLAY WITH A SHARPS FOR LONG RANGE,I'VE BEEN SHOOTING ONE FOR SOME TIME BUT HAVE NEVER TRIED TO EXTEND THE RANGE PAST 150yds I KNOW THE OLD TIMERS CLAIMED 800 TO 1000yrds WITH THEM. I WOULD REALLY LIKE SOME INPUT ON THIS SUBJECT
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Old 07-04-2003, 10:19 AM
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Re: SHARPS 45-70

Dave King and I shot with a pair of guys who used Sharps rifles on a tactical course a couple of years ago. They made hits on steel man-targets out at 900 and 1000 yards with their open-sights and big cast-lead bullets. They were good fellows and let everyone try their Sharps, I believe that most guys managed hits out at 900. They claimed that you can pull the trigger, pour yourself a coffee, have a sip, then you hear the clang.
They shot the rifles prone using two little crossed sticks with a leather strap between them that the rifle sat on, sort of like a hammock. After each shot they remove the case, then insert another case into the chamber that has a piece of elastic tubing attached to the base, then they blow a few times into the hose. Something about the moisture from their breath softening the powder residue I seem to recall. This is a definite situation where a person would want to blow, not suck unless you enjoy the taste of sulfur.
Anyhow, you should give it a try, just make sure your target is reasonably large. I shoot on another range where a club made a life-sized steel buffalo and at one point they had the buffalo setup at 1650 yards and shot at it with their Sharps rifles. Now it is at 1100 yards - pretty tough for our .308's but nice shooting for our .300's.
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Old 07-04-2003, 10:28 AM
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Re: SHARPS 45-70

If you do a search for black powder silhouette shooting, you will open a door to long range with black powder cartridges. Yes, shooting that far is not only possible but components are now off the shelf.

On the east coast they are going to start 1000yd prone shooting again using BP cartridges. Check with the NRA for details.

I have a friend that shoots with us and has scared the gongs many times at 700yds. There are lots of different tweaks needed for BP which I am not totally familiar with so will refer you to others on BP boards.

As long as you have the elevation, with a very stiff load and 500+gr 45cal bullets. Going to 1000yds is possible.

Jerry
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Old 07-04-2003, 10:50 AM
 
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Re: SHARPS 45-70

ONE TIDBIT OF INFO I LEFT OUT IS THAT THIS IS A REPLICA AND I'M NOT SHOOTING BLACKPOWDER NOW BEFORE ANYBODY HAS HEART FAILURE THE MANUFACTURER SAID IT WILL WITHSTAND THE PRESSURES FOR ANY LOAD FOR 1895 MARLIN. I TRIED THE 400gr LEAD BULLET AND COULD GET NO GROUP SMALLER 3" AT 50yds NO MATTER WHAT POWDER OR CHARGE.NOW I AM SHOOTING 300gr SIERRA HP WITH 51.2grs IMR 4198 AND I AM GETTING VERY CONSISTENT RESULTS
HECK I CAN TOUCH HOLES AT 50yds WITH OPEN SIGHTS, GOOD TRICK HUH ?

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Old 07-12-2003, 08:59 AM
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Sharpshooter, if your bullets are properly sized and lubed(quality, not quantity), and are of proper design and weight, AND your gun is capable...It will do as you desire. FWIW, it will probably shoot better with quality black powder than smokeless. Hard cast is not necessarily your friend in this world. Paper patch may be. Take the plunge my friend, black is good. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-12-2003, 12:50 PM
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Re: SHARPS 45-70

with bullet design for ong range ( NEI mold ) seat out to let room to the PB load ( need perhaps to rethroat ) you can get impressive range with the old 45/70

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Old 07-12-2003, 08:43 PM
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Re: SHARPS 45-70

Howdy Sharpshooter,
I would like to add my two bits here [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] I played with BPC rifles for eight years. Went AAA at NRA Silhouette, and a bunch of Buffalo Gun Shoots just for fun. I shot the 40-65, 45-70 and 50-90. They all demanded the same loading technique. Soft lead, soft lube, heavy bullet weight and a full case of black powder, slighty compressed. They will haul the mail way out there with good tang sights. Smokeless and jacketed will not do here. Do your research and you will have a ton of fun. Then you will wake up like I did and realize that a tuned 308, or better yet a Match prepped 300 WM is a WHOLE LOT BETTER [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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