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Old 01-02-2012, 05:48 PM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

It was the expect moa at 100 yard. To determine a group at a much longer distance. My 308 model 600 shoots 1.5" groups at 100 yards with much shorter barrel
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

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It was the expect moa at 100 yard. To determine a group at a much longer distance. My 308 model 600 shoots 1.5" groups at 100 yards with much shorter barrel
Youi should be able with just basic accurizing get either the 5R Mispec or Sendero's to shoot at or below MOA.

If deer is the toughest game you are going to be shooting at and at sub 750yds ranges, of the calibers you mentioned the 7 rem mag or 300WM would be ideal although I consider the 7STW to be completely superior to both.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:57 AM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

COOP- based on what you said. i would get either a 264 or 7mm sendero. 7stw are good; but hard to find.
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Old 01-04-2012, 02:01 PM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

For a factory rifle, I like the Remington 700 Sendero SF II. The barrels have twist rates that will allow you to shoot most of the larger high BC bullets on the market today. For a long range Deer rifle, I like the good old Rem 7mm Mag. It has served me well in places like W. Texas, Kansas, etc. where 300 plus yard shots are the norm.

You should be able to squeeze out 1.25" MOA 100 yard 3 shot groups easily and most will group much better with custom reloads; probably under 1.00 MOA. I had the same basic heavy barrel rifle in 22-250 (Model 700 VS SF Varmint Synthetic Stainless Fluted) and it shot 5 shot groups of 55 grain Noslers at 3800 fps into a .75" hole at 200 yards. But, that rifle has a 1:12 twist and would not stabilize a bullet heavier than 55 grains.

The Sendero is a good base rifle for customization too. Custom trigger, stock, barrel, bottom metal you will have a good shooter for sure. I did this with one of my 700 actions and came out with a 7mm that shoots 5 shot .5"ish groups at 100 yards using 168 grain Bergers.

Get the best scope, base, and rings that you can afford. As for the rifle too, you get what you pay for.

I just had a custom 243 Ackley built by Lester Bruno. He did it in 4 months because unlike most other builders, he stocks barrels, actions, triggers, etc. It would have been 8 weeks but had to wait on the reamer. Of course I could have bought 3 Senderos for the same price.

A lot of people parrot things they have heard about "barrel burners". Truth is most hunters would not shoot 2000 rounds through a rifle in 3 life times, even if it is the only one they own. But, as with anything else, there is a price to be paid for speed and power. If you shoot that much plan on spending $700-800 on a new custom barrel when it no longer groups.


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Old 01-04-2012, 02:34 PM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

If your thinking new I wouldn't. I would try to find a deal on a used 7rm or .300wm and see how it shoots. If it doesn't shoot good enough then spend the money you saved on a good barrel. Send it to one of the barrel manufactures and have them fit it and true the action. Or have someone else true the action and have the barrel manufacturer fit it.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:04 PM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

also cartridge availability is one of my concerns. I don't load anything yet, so I'd like the opportunity to purchase some of the "luxury end ammo" off the shelf. Thanks for all of the replies and help.
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:39 PM
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Re: sendero sf11 or milspec 5r?

I bought a Sendero in 300 RUM in 2010 to use on Colorado elk hunts when I do not want to lug my 15 lb. 338 Edge up the steeper slopes. I skim bedded the Sendero and installed a Jewel trigger. It shoots 1 inch groups at 200 yards with 180 gr. Barnes TTSX bullets at 3265 fps. My load is 97.0 grains of Retumbo, CCI 250 primers and RP brass.

I was very happy to take this nice bull with it on 11/6/11 near Cimarron, CO.
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