Long Range Hunting Online Magazine


Go Back   Long Range Hunting Online Magazine > Hunting > Long Range Hunting & Shooting

Long Range Hunting & Shooting Nightforce Optics


Reply

Ruger accuracy

 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #22  
Old 07-31-2013, 11:17 AM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Great Falls, MT
Posts: 4,933
Re: Ruger accuracy

Quote:
Originally Posted by MontanaRifleman View Post
The ring/mount system is proprietary and you are stuck with Ruger rings unless you get custom ones made at a large cost.
Mark,

Look at one of the links on my response #3, I used a Ruger-to-Weaver adapter by Burris to open up my options on rings.

Cheers!

Ed
__________________

I voted for my "FREEDOM", "GUNS", and "MONEY" - keep the change - UNK.



"I am always proud of my country!"

"Leadership Rule #2: Don't be an @zzhole." - Maj Gen Burton Field.

Last edited by FEENIX; 07-31-2013 at 11:55 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-31-2013, 11:35 AM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 247
Re: Ruger accuracy

I drilled and tapped my reciever put a Picatinny rail on mine. Had to make a spacer to go under the back. They do make a Picatinny rail that clamps on reciever.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-31-2013, 12:52 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 6,329
Re: Ruger accuracy

Quote:
Originally Posted by MontanaRifleman View Post
The biggest issue is the angled front screw. It causes a lot of problems in a lot of Rugers. Most smiths redrill and tap the reciever to make the front screw perpendicular to the reciever. The recoil lug is integrated which is a good thing but not very beefy. The trigger sucks but you can get a Timney. The ring/mount system is proprietary and you are stuck with Ruger rings unless you get custom ones made at a large cost. The bolt release is bulky and not as easy to use as most other actions. The push feed and CRF bolts are good. Very few aftermarket accessories and stocks available.
Mark, remember, EGW & Near Mfg. both make picatinny rails for the recievers. Only downside, is that you have to have your smith drill & tap the 4 holes for you. However, I think it would be worth the investment since you would be able to use whatever rings and scope you wanted to, after having it drilled & tapped. Just my opinion.
__________________
"I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns..." - Bob Lee Swagger

"Give me a minute...I'm good. Give me an hour...I'm great. Give me 6 months...And I'm unbeatable." - Col. Hannibal Smith

Ignore everything I say, because I have a reading comprehension and memory problem...

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
The 284 is to the STW what a tricycle is to a Ninja.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-31-2013, 03:45 PM
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 247
Re: Ruger accuracy

[QUOTE=MontanaRifleman;833005]If you're shooting an "older" factory rifle, don't expect miracles. It is what it is. The best accuracy i got out of my Tang Safety M77 7RM was about 3/4 MOA, which isn't bad considering it was a factory rifle. I burned the barrel out and was interested in re-barreling it and asked the question here in this thread...

Miracles do happen. They can be made to shoot.
This is what my old tang safety 220 swift 1976 bicentennial model will do after all these years. I reworked the trigger, and piller bedded the walnut stock and recrowned the barrel years ago back in the late 80s. Don't know the round count, We haven't shot it to death just used it on crows and coyote's. Always heard the Swifts were barrel burners and have been afraid the accuracy would leave it. But it is still going strong. I looked for my 280 ack targets but couldn't find them.


Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-31-2013, 03:58 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Alabama
Posts: 6,329
Re: Ruger accuracy

Whip, I had a bicentennial .220 Swift at one point in time, about 11 years ago. Traded a set of tires for it. Then traded it to a guy I worked with (at the outdoors store) for his custom Model 7 .22-250 the same day. I never did find out what he did with it. We both wound up screwing the other over on the deal, because both guns had shot-out barrels. Difference was, he KNEW his was, but I had never shot the .220, so I was unaware. He came back to work the next day, showed me a target, and it wouldn't group a pie-plate @ 100 yards. LOL I felt bad, till I went to shoot his .22-250 he traded me, and it was almost as bad. So I had it rebarreled to a .308 Win, and never looked back. Best thing I ever did for that rifle was rebarrel it. My smith is GOOD! That thing was shooting 1 hole groups @ 100 yards. I've never in my life seen a rifle that was more accurate than that one was.
__________________
"I'm just a peckerwood who lives in the hills with too many guns..." - Bob Lee Swagger

"Give me a minute...I'm good. Give me an hour...I'm great. Give me 6 months...And I'm unbeatable." - Col. Hannibal Smith

Ignore everything I say, because I have a reading comprehension and memory problem...

Quote:
Originally Posted by WildRose View Post
The 284 is to the STW what a tricycle is to a Ninja.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-31-2013, 05:16 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Great Falls, MT
Posts: 4,933
Re: Ruger accuracy

Quote:
Originally Posted by FEENIX View Post
Mark,

Look at one of the links on my response #3, I used a Ruger-to-Weaver adapter by Burris to open up my options on rings.

Cheers!

Ed
Another pix of the adapter ...
Attached Thumbnails - Click to View Larger
Ruger accuracy-p4030313.jpg  
__________________

I voted for my "FREEDOM", "GUNS", and "MONEY" - keep the change - UNK.



"I am always proud of my country!"

"Leadership Rule #2: Don't be an @zzhole." - Maj Gen Burton Field.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-31-2013, 05:18 PM
Platinum Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: South of Canada and North of Wyoming
Posts: 5,953
Re: Ruger accuracy

Quote:
Originally Posted by FEENIX View Post
Mark,

Look at one of the links on my response #3, I used a Ruger-to-Weaver adapter by Burris to open up my options on rings.

Cheers!

Ed
Ed,

Thanks for the links. Very interesting reading the threads on the subject. There are more options available than I though but most of them such as Near and Farrel are what I consider in the custom class and a little spendy compared to other common quality options. Also, they still leave those dirt collecting divots in the top of the receiver The question is, how many hoops and how much $$$ does one invest to make it work? When is it better to switch gears and invest in something a little more upgrade friendly? That was eventually my decision after A LOT of investigation and solicitation of opinions, which included smiths and a well know barrel maker.

Like I said, I may give my M77 a facelift someday because of its history with me, especially since my smith likes them (not Dave Young, my smith down here in Three Forks, Glen Demaray) I sure wouldn't go out and buy one for a donor.

BTW, sweet rifle in your Facelift thread. What did you do regarding bedding, pillars, angle front screw etc.?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MudRunner2005 View Post
Mark, remember, EGW & Near Mfg. both make picatinny rails for the recievers. Only downside, is that you have to have your smith drill & tap the 4 holes for you. However, I think it would be worth the investment since you would be able to use whatever rings and scope you wanted to, after having it drilled & tapped. Just my opinion.
Mud,

Didn't know that EGW made a rail for the M77. That said, I checked out their site and called them. The rail they sell is the standard and not the HD and they don't make a steel version. I might consider it for a lighter chambering... maybe a 22-250 or 243 or smaller. I'm not sure it would be worth the investment from a practical view. I would only do it because like I mentioned to FEENIX, the rifle's history with me. I find buying Howa/Vanguard actions much more practical as they need no more than a straight forward blueprint job of receiver and bolt. That said, anything longer than a Dakota case and I am going full custom. The Howa actions (and M77's) are a little too short for 300 WM cases and longer with long high BC bullets.

[quote=Tnwhip;833198]
Quote:
Originally Posted by MontanaRifleman View Post
If you're shooting an "older" factory rifle, don't expect miracles. It is what it is. The best accuracy i got out of my Tang Safety M77 7RM was about 3/4 MOA, which isn't bad considering it was a factory rifle. I burned the barrel out and was interested in re-barreling it and asked the question here in this thread...

Miracles do happen. They can be made to shoot.
This is what my old tang safety 220 swift 1976 bicentennial model will do after all these years. I reworked the trigger, and piller bedded the walnut stock and recrowned the barrel years ago back in the late 80s. Don't know the round count, We haven't shot it to death just used it on crows and coyote's. Always heard the Swifts were barrel burners and have been afraid the accuracy would leave it. But it is still going strong. I looked for my 280 ack targets but couldn't find them.


You can hope for a miracle, but don't expect one. You can make anything shoot well if you put enough time and $$$ into it. Also, your lighter chamberings usually produce better groups. When you start climbing the cartridge food chain, things like recoil lugs, bedding and action screws become much more relevant.

How did you pillar bed it it and what did you do with the angled front action screw?

My honest advise to Chad is sell your Ruger and take the money and buy an old Howa or Vanguard at a gun show for about $200-$300 and go from there. You'll get a good shooter for less $$$ and effort and there will be nothing convoluted about it.... unless your are emotionally attached to this rifle.
__________________
- Mark

You will never know how much it has cost my generation to preserve your freedom. I hope you make good use of it.
~ John Quincy Adams
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:42 PM.


Powered by vBulletin ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Management Powered by vBadvanced CMPS
All content ©2010-2014 Long Range Hunting, LLC