Remington XCR, XCR II, Sendero, LRT

[eyeballjr]

Don't think you can go wrong with either a Sendero or a Savage. I have owned both and they where both shooters. My current Sendero will shoot sub .75 with Factory Remington ammo. Have not had the chance to reload for it yet.

[cross]

Originally Posted by MHO

OK guys. I am new to this site but have been reading everyones input for advice for a long time. I am looking for a new 300 Win mag for hunting. We shoot out to 800 yards. I have been looking at the Remington XCR II, XCR, Sendero and LRT. My question is, would I be better off saving the difference in price with the XCR or XCR II and have a gunsmith "accurize it" over the sendero or LRT? Im not dead set on Remington. Any advise is greatly appreciated. Thanks

My experience has been very different from others with the Senderos. I've seen 1 out of 7 shoot sub MOA with only a bedding job. Most are closer to 1.5 or 2 MOA.

Try to find a used Sendero for $700 to $800. Have a gunsmith put a Krieger or Hart barrel on it. You'll have a much nicer rifle than a factory Sendero for not too much more $$$.

[Buano]

Originally Posted by cross

My experience has been very different from others with the Senderos. I've seen 1 out of 7 shoot sub MOA with only a bedding job. Most are closer to 1.5 or 2 MOA.

Try to find a used Sendero for $700 to $800. Have a gunsmith put a Krieger or Hart barrel on it. You'll have a much nicer rifle than a factory Sendero for not too much more $$$.

From what I've seen it has been 1 out of 3 or 1 out of 4 Senderos that shot well without gunsmith "services". There is no argument that a Sendero can be turned into a shooter. The question is whether that is the wisest plan when most Savages shoot well out of the box. The best arguments I see for the Sendero would be; if a person was set on a chambering that was available in the Sendero but not in a Savage, or if a person found a used one for a great price.

Perhaps someone should forward this thread to Remington to let their marketing people know that lack of "expected accuracy" is costing them sales.

[coyotezapper]

Sendero

[MHO]

Originally Posted by cross

My experience has been very different from others with the Senderos. I've seen 1 out of 7 shoot sub MOA with only a bedding job. Most are closer to 1.5 or 2 MOA.

Try to find a used Sendero for $700 to $800. Have a gunsmith put a Krieger or Hart barrel on it. You'll have a much nicer rifle than a factory Sendero for not too much more $$$.

Cross, Thanks a lot for your advice. Its greatly appreciated. MHOI

[MHO]

Originally Posted by eyeballjr

Don't think you can go wrong with either a Sendero or a Savage. I have owned both and they where both shooters. My current Sendero will shoot sub .75 with Factory Remington ammo. Have not had the chance to reload for it yet.

From what I've seen and the feel of these two rifles. I think I am leaning towards the Savage 111 LRH. Thanks MHO

[angus-5024]

I havent had a remington or savage (higher end of course) cross my hands that couldnt shoot under 1MOA with carefull handloads, barrel channel relief (almost always), and a good pillar bed job. Mind you, I havent had as many rifles as alot of other members. I would say get what feels best in your hands. I would try to get something with a good stock though.