Originally Posted by awesfall
The reason i posted this blog was because i am looking to buy a new gun for long range shootin i know i want a 300 wsm. i have a 30 06 savage model 110 adjusted the trigger and it will shoot 1 inch all day. i was thinkin savage but my dad is in love with the remys and is pushing one on me. and i was wondering what people think that hav shot both or one. I WANT TO DRILL DIMES.
I know first hand that they are two great riffles and that is where i am caught up with my choice....
This sounds like some of the Chevy vs Ford debates.
I hate to see any (verses) between different rifles or scopes because they all have a following
and you end up getting opinions because they are not apples to apples comparisons.
The old saying that you get what you pay for is very true and when comparing the two
you have to look at the strengths and weakness of each.
Marlins are very inexpensive but for the most part they shoot well.
Savages are cheaper than the remingtons but are known as good shooters out of the box
(in most cases) As a smith there are some things that I personally don't like.the barrel nut does
not bother me because it is the way Savage head spaces a pre-chambered barrel ,It is cheep
and fast and saves money even though I personally don't like the looks of it.
The recoil lug is weak/soft and can be problematic in heavy recoiling rifles and normally has to
be changed out because of bending. The Accutrigger is also very cheep and was changed because the buyers demanded it (The old trigger was like sticking a screwdriver in a hole and
pulling it out when you wanted to fire the rifle). It was just a fix not a redesign.
In defence of the savage they have been cheaper to buy in the past and for the money were
a good deal. But this is no longer true because the upper end savages cost as much as some
of the 700 Remington's.
As to the remingtons they also have some cheaper rifles that I personally don't like ,and like
most other rifles don't always have the best quality control . But if you look at most custom
actions they are cloned after the 700 Remingtion action because it is a good design to start
with and can be made very accurate. The older triggers were much better than the new ones
but like everyone else they have bowed to the lawyers and know one can get a decent trigger
with out going to an after market trigger and when you install it your self they are not
responsible if something happens .
Most factory barrels are hit and miss as far as quality no matter who makes them because in order to make a rifle that has a reasonable price they are mass produced and have a wide
range of acceptance spec.
When determining whether to change barrels or re-use the original barrel I place them
between centers to check for run out (Most factory barrels are straightened after they are
bored,rifled and contoured) and if they are over .004 or.005 thousandth out then they will
be rejected. The worst I have ever seen was ,054 the bore was straight but with the outside
dia. .054 thicker on one side than the other I was never going to shoot well.
So in my opinion if I had a budget of $400.oo I would buy a Remington SPS and take my
chances that I would get a good one.If my budget was $700.oo I would probably buy a
savage or a Remington with a good stock. if my budget was $1200.oo it would be a
Remington sendero because I feel your best chance of getting a real shooter are best.
If my budget was unlimited then I would build a custom rifle with all of the factory problems
removed. the best barrels, blue printed or custom action , custom stock with pillars and bedding
after market trigger and a quality set of rings and bases and scope.
Sorry about the long winded reply but like everyone else I have my opinion and my recommendation would be to = Buy which one you like the best for the money and don't expect
to much unless you spend a lot.
There are a lot of mid range rifles ($700.oo to $1200.oo) that are good so don't get hung up on
one or two rifles look at all of them before you make up your mind.
If all factory rifles were the same price it would be easy for me. I would buy a Weatherby MK5.
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