Remington .270 Long Range?

[Ankeny]

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What animals are you hunting? For deer your fine. Whats going to limit your range is the caliber.

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I couldn't agree more. I would be comfortable with a .270 on antelope and deer, but I would feel undergunned shooting an 800 lb. 400 class bull elk at long distance as he stood on the edge of the coulee from hell. If you are going to reload, it's pretty easy to step up to at least a .280 AI when you rebarrel.

[41mag]

Hey Greg,

For just starting out and not dumping a lot of $$ into manuals you might brouse through what might be listed on E-Bay. To get the basics down, most of the manuals printed in the last 10 years cover most of it pretty well. I would however consult some of the newest manuals for up to date powder choices as well as loads. Also most of the powder manufacutrers have on-line data as well as pdf files which can be downloaded.

Shoot me an e-mail addy and I will put you on some decent links, at least it will help you get off to a start in the right direction.

[Mysticplayer]

Let's get you started. Consider pillar bedding if you see compression in the stock. Check that bedding without the action screws in place, the action should have no play at all if properly bedded. Free float that barrel not done already. Get that trigger as light and crisp as you are comfortable with.

When you start to reload, use the Lee collet neck die for sizing (helps with the standard oversized factory chambers). Seat the bullet to allow function from the mag. For powder, H4831SC (look for data on the Hodgdon site). Brass, fireformed and necked sized WIN. Primer CCI BR2. Bullet Hornady 150gr SST.

If you rifle will shoot, this combo will work. No issue shooting to 1000m MOA or better IF the rifle and you are up to it.

Enjoy...

Jerry

[Derek M.]

I'd recommend you visit Dan Lilja's site and watch his bore scope video if you haven't already.
check out the video comparison of a handlapped bbl, vs Remington take off bbl.

Allow that to assist you whether or not you should go with a new bbl. Personally, a new handlapped bbl., coupled with handloads is the only way to go, IMO.

If you are going to reload, my first recommendation is to get the manual that accompanies the bullet and powder you plan to use. Unless of course you plan on using a bullet like Wildcat, then you have to go at it with what you have.

If you plan on shooting Sierra MK bullets and H4831, then those are the 2 manuals you should be looking at when loading. Especially the bullet manual.

I have 3 270's and all have different bbl lengths and are used for different purposes. My Ruger wears a 25.5" Hart bbl and is a tack driver. It prints on average 1/2" groups with 130 TSX bullets and Re19 powder. But several groups are just about one holers.

I feel that a new bbl is such a step in the right direction. AND, you can rechamber the rifle to another long action if you wish. A 280 AI was mentioned and that would be an excellent choice, especially with a 150-160 grain bullet.

[Washout]

I hunt deer with this gun, If I were to step up to elk I would probably move on to the .300 mag. I figure I will end up with a new barrel and here in the winter is the time to do it since I won't be in such a hurry to get it done. There always seems to be one company that shines the brightest. Who is the barrel company that has the best product and who does the best work at rebarreling? If I were to change to the .280, what else would the action need to accept this cartridge?

Thanks for all the input, I do appreciate all of your thoughts.
Gregg

[Fiftydriver]

Washout,

To be honest, with todays top quality bullets, the 270 Win is a MUCH better elk round then it used to be. That said, it is not overly powerful for this job but a well placed 270 bullet will kill any bull elk that walks the planet easily.

As far as barrels go, there is a pretty good list that will work great. My personal favorite is Lilja but there are others as well. Krieger, Rock, Broughton are a few others that I have total confidence in. Pac Nor barrels are pretty good as well but I would not quite put them in the same class as the first four brands listed.

There really is not a BEST brand of barrel. In barrels I think the top four are in my opinion all about the same quality, VERY GOOD!!

As far as smith to do the work, again, there are several top smiths on this website alone that can do world class work. Chris Matthews, Shawn Carlock, myself and several others as well that frequent this site are very good at what we do. Ask around get recommendations from other shootes with our rifles. The rifles themselves are the best proof of our work.

Please do not think that just because I mentioned these three smiths in particular that I feel they are the best on the board. I just have a somewhat personal and professional relationship with these other two gentlemen so that is the only reason I list them specifically.

Biggest thing, get referrences and do some homework.

Going from a 270 Win to a 280 Rem will simply require a rebarreling job, no receiver mods needed at all except accurizing of course.

Kirby Allen(50)

[Washout]

Thanks for the info Fiftydriver. I guess the last question for me now is what are the real gains I would see by ungrading to the .280 vs. staying with the .270?

Regards,