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Old 03-05-2013, 09:31 PM
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range finder and spot scope?

I am looking for a good starting out range finder that is reliable and easy on the wallet also I am in the market for a spotting scope for high hunting any advice is helpful thanks.
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Re: range finder and spot scope?

I think you have to define easy on wallet and what ranges you wish to achieve. For example my wallet and a 15 year olds might be different, I know my wallet and some guys are here is likely living on two different planets.

For shorter ranges Nikon, Leupold, and Bushnell all make good units out to about 600 yards on non-reflective targets. I played with the 1000's in each model and they work fine on reflective.

Leica, Swarovski- good out to 1800 yards reflective and I have had non-out to 1400 on bright days. I have the Leica as it seemed to give me the best results overall. I have the 1600B but am not sure the B is needed.

G7- pretty awesome. You might go this route for 1500 if you want to use it in place of a palm or ipod. I have an ipod with shooter. Works for me but I have to carry an RF and ipod.....I don't mind I can play with ipod while out hunting and take pictures etc. LOL

vectronix?.....never mind

Spotters. Well again, wallet size counts. I have a Bushnell Elite HD with ED glass and it is flat aweseome for the money, if you can find one. In our outfitter camp we have Swarovski, Leica, Nikon etc and it runs right with the lower priced units in the those name brands. Vortex and Nikon (mid level) have decent glass in the less than 1500 price range. Cheap spotters are just that, cheap, I have had couple. Konus for example. It worked fine but it was limited. You might look at Brunton HD as well.
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I think you have to define easy on wallet and what ranges you wish to achieve. For example my wallet and a 15 year olds might be different, I know my wallet and some guys are here is likely living on two different planets.

For shorter ranges Nikon, Leupold, and Bushnell all make good units out to about 600 yards on non-reflective targets. I played with the 1000's in each model and they work fine on reflective.

Leica, Swarovski- good out to 1800 yards reflective and I have had non-out to 1400 on bright days. I have the Leica as it seemed to give me the best results overall. I have the 1600B but am not sure the B is needed.

G7- pretty awesome. You might go this route for 1500 if you want to use it in place of a palm or ipod. I have an ipod with shooter. Works for me but I have to carry an RF and ipod.....I don't mind I can play with ipod while out hunting and take pictures etc. LOL

vectronix?.....never mind

Spotters. Well again, wallet size counts. I have a Bushnell Elite HD with ED glass and it is flat aweseome for the money, if you can find one. In our outfitter camp we have Swarovski, Leica, Nikon etc and it runs right with the lower priced units in the those name brands. Vortex and Nikon (mid level) have decent glass in the less than 1500 price range. Cheap spotters are just that, cheap, I have had couple. Konus for example. It worked fine but it was limited. You might look at Brunton HD as well.
Thanks for the feed back I guess what I meant to say was I am looking for a good beginners range finder reliable out to about 600 yards. My cerent effective range is 350 and I hope to double that this summer. As for the spotting scope I am looking for some thing that I can use for a long time reliable out to about 1200 yards.
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Re: range finder and spot scope?

Sorry to be a pain but those things are still a bit dependant on non or reflective surfaces. Also, if you want to spot bullet holes on paper at 1200 we have a new set of issues.

So, if you are looking for a RF that will do fine out to 600 yards on non-reflective targets, get the 1000 model RF from Leupold, Bushnell, Vortex, or Nikon for about $350.

Spotting scope. If 1200 yards is the for viewing game, rocks, girls, or large steel plates on bright days then a cheaper scope will be OK, except crap like Barska. The Konus was great for this. At that range and those size targets you don't need a 20-60x80 high end scope. Nikon prostaff, Bushell Ultra HD, Vortex etc. I would look hard the Ultra HD 12-36 for this.

If you are spotting bullet holes on paper, you will have to step it up big time. Even with the best glass you will struggle due to range conditions and mirage. This is likely not in your budget but I would expect 2000 to 3000 dollar optics for repeatable performance.

As I mentioned we tend to pull out the Swarovski HD 20-60 x 80 for extended viewing, especially in low light, for long range, measured in miles, not yards. We are looking at tine length on deer and elk. My Bushnell does very well as I mentioned but it is a 1000.00 on midway and may be more than you wish to spend.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:08 PM
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Re: range finder and spot scope?

Leica makes some good items for fair prices. I've played with the Leica rangefinders a little bit, and found them to be of good quality, and really accurate.

I have played with the Swarovski rangefinders a good bit, too, and I wouldn't mind having one of those, either.

If NF would come out with a rangefinder that would be SWEET!
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Re: range finder and spot scope?

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Sorry to be a pain but those things are still a bit dependant on non or reflective surfaces. Also, if you want to spot bullet holes on paper at 1200 we have a new set of issues.

So, if you are looking for a RF that will do fine out to 600 yards on non-reflective targets, get the 1000 model RF from Leupold, Bushnell, Vortex, or Nikon for about $350.

Spotting scope. If 1200 yards is the for viewing game, rocks, girls, or large steel plates on bright days then a cheaper scope will be OK, except crap like Barska. The Konus was great for this. At that range and those size targets you don't need a 20-60x80 high end scope. Nikon prostaff, Bushell Ultra HD, Vortex etc. I would look hard the Ultra HD 12-36 for this.

If you are spotting bullet holes on paper, you will have to step it up big time. Even with the best glass you will struggle due to range conditions and mirage. This is likely not in your budget but I would expect 2000 to 3000 dollar optics for repeatable performance.

As I mentioned we tend to pull out the Swarovski HD 20-60 x 80 for extended viewing, especially in low light, for long range, measured in miles, not yards. We are looking at tine length on deer and elk. My Bushnell does very well as I mentioned but it is a 1000.00 on midway and may be more than you wish to spend.
The spotting scopes primary use will be spotting animals rocks I think are animals and steel. Girls? were did that come from?
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Old 03-07-2013, 07:16 PM
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Re: range finder and spot scope?

It's a simple attempt to be funny.

The lower cost scopes will be fine for 1200 yard spotting on animals etc in decent light. I would look at the 300-700 dollar range. I have looked through Vortex and they seem fine. I still lean toward the Bushnell HD glass tho. For the money they are pretty good. The ones I have cost $1500 MSRP. but I bought some HD binoculars for my kid not long ago and I really like them for them money. He leaves my Swarovski EL's alone now.
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