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Unread 05-04-2005, 08:06 AM
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Re: Question for John Burns????

Thanks for all the info so far. I guess what I am wondering about really is about the attaching mini dv camcorder to a spotting scope. I asked this question to john burns because I have seen the other hunting host on his show using a camera attached to a spotting scope. I have found universal attachment for this from nikon but I don't know if it will only fit nikon spotting scopes, I also don't know where they rank in quality. I know I can't afford a swaro but I would like to get something that will work good for long range videoing. I am open to suggestions.

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Unread 05-04-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: Question for John Burns????

John, I watch your program all the time, "The Best of The West" and woulld like to know what specific rifle scopes you use on your rifles and what range finders you use I have never seen any of these range finders. Thanks
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Unread 05-10-2005, 02:58 PM
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Big Bore

Wondering if you or anyone has luck in simply recording mirage? I've never tried and always wanted a mirage reading tape while I was in the middle of the pack shooting position long range. No one ever offered it, just how to read mirage. But nothing like see this is X mph and fire a round. Then see it building, thats another 2mph and the shot will land "right there" and fire another.

Of course since then I"ve learned how easy it is to clean the 600 yard target but it would still be nice to have some instructional tape like that.

Get as close as you can, but utilize your skills as needed.
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Unread 05-11-2005, 09:17 AM
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It is difficult to use a spotter to film thru due to the extreme magnification.

Example: a spotter set at 20x and the camera set at 20x gives 400x.

This works OK on an animal at 1500 yds but it gives such a small field of view it is difficult to view trace at normal long range shooting distances(400-700 yds or so).

We simply use our standard camera lenses that have 16-20x optical zooms. In a static situation I have a 2x doubler that works well but it prevents the use of the lower end of the zoom and does not give the viewer a good feel for the distance to the target.

All video camera shooting normal video capture 60 frames per second so if you have a decent lens and the right conditions I think you will have better luck using just the camera.

The correct term for the phenomena you sometimes see on our show is “Trace”. This is the air in front of the bullet being compressed and the light refracting thru the different densities of compressed and non compressed air.

This creates the tube of mirage visible in a spotter or with a camera.

Another phenomenon is much rarer and is the formation of a vapor trail or contrail such as is seen behind a jet aircraft. It requires some fairly rare atmospheric conditions and I have only seen it with small bores shooting close to the ground.

To use your video camera thru the spotter set the spotter to its lowest magnification and the camera to the highest optical zoom and line up as best you can. Some brackets can be fabricated or the two tripod method or a good camera man can get decent results handholding the camera.

Thanks for the comments about the show and sorry it takes me so long to respond but things are pretty busy.
John Burns
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Unread 05-13-2005, 10:07 AM
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Re: Question for John Burns????

John Burns: I'd love to hear your reply to Mad4hunting regarding the type of scope you use on your show. I'd love to get one myself.
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