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Old 05-02-2006, 06:25 PM
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Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Hey there, new to forums.. Figured I'd just start off with a post.. I'm from northern California area, but I have a ranch out in Idaho, and have started to go out of state to hunt. I've never been a huge elk hunter, but I'm in the market for a new gun. I'm torn between a .300 RUM and 7mm RUM, and I've been heavily leaning towards the 7mm RUM round. Just wondering if you guys think this is an acceptable round to take an elk upto 500 yards if I had to, or what would be an effective range to take an elk with a 160 grain 7mm RUM round.

While I have some doubts in my mind, the only other time i've taken elk have been on special hunts here at close range with my .308 and 165 grain bullets. I do realize the 7mm is vastly more powerful, but I'm hoping it will do the trick at long range before I spend the money on the gun. Thanks for any responses in advance!
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Old 05-02-2006, 06:50 PM
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Re: Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Both the rounds you are talking about will get the job done. While with the right bullets the 7 is flatter shooting the 300 will offer a larger frontal area in the bullets and heavier for caliber bullets. IF you go with the 7mm then I would recommend the 160gr accubond for maximum wieght retention or go with something offered by Richard Graves of wildcat bullets, something around 160 to 175grs and I think you can stabilize it.

Both rounds are amazingly powerful and as long as you can get them to shoot good you will be set to thump some elk!!!

good luck and tell us what you pick

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Old 05-02-2006, 11:25 PM
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Re: Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Go with the 300. It's "cooler" as in [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]and thumps on both ends a bit more than the 7. But either one is good for the job.
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Old 05-03-2006, 07:07 PM
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Re: Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Brandon,
I was wondering where abouts in Northern California do you live? I grew up in Eureka CA, and had a special elk tag last year for BIG LAGOON. I ended up eating some tag soup but that's how it goes some times!
What special hunts did you get drawn for?

Oh btw, Why don't you just stick with the .308 if 500 is all your looking at for distance? Put the bullet in the right spot and he'll die. . . on the same token if you're just looking for a really good excuse to buy a new gun then I would have to say that you can't go wrong with the 7 RUM or the 300 win! Personal opinon would be to go with 300 win. I don't know if you handload or not but bullet selection is better with the 30's and over the counter ammo is more readily avail. I would say that the barrel will last longer too. But along the lines you were thinking. . . the 7 RUM will get you to 1000 on elk and even furthur on deer. GET GOOD OPTICS!!

Good luck with whatever you get!
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Old 05-03-2006, 07:13 PM
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Re: Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Both the 300 RUM and 7 RUM have good qualities and advantages. I have a load that will deliver over 2000 FPE at 1K from my 300. The only draw back is that bullet isnt suitable for elk. However I do have a load that will deliver 1400 FPE at 1K and its a heavy long tank of a bullet well suited for elk. There are several bullets for the 7mm RUM that will deliver awesome trajectories and even some decent energy. None I would shoot an elk with though. Most bullets well suited for elk at long range are going to be the ACCUBOND or INTERBOND, or Partition. Not Amax's or SMK's (short range either for either caliber) My money for a looong range elk bullet is the 200 ACCUBOND. It will blow the doors off the 160 ACCUBOND.

Is the 7 RUM useless? Absolutly not. Its a hard hitter and flat shooter. Is the 300 RUM better? That depends on your definition of better. There is no clear cut answer.

Go with what makes you happy. They will both cleanly harvest an elk at 600 yards +.
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Thanks for your answers. As for where I am in Northern Cal, its right around the Sacramento area. As for my special hunts it's been at Grizzly Island for spike hunts which I was able to stalk within 50 yards of the elk using proper wind and the high cattails as cover with my .308 with some hand loaded 165 grain Nosler's. Oh ya, my Idaho ranch is in whitetail country on the Nez Perce reservation right next to the Flying B ranch (yes I am part indian lol, but I don't follow my hertiage much since im cali born)

But yes, I'm mainly looking to add a new gun for myself since I'm only 23, I figure I will end up buying both guns but for now I'm just torn between which I want to buy first. I might just go with the .300 RUM for now, because I'm not a real big fan of the guns remington makes the 7mm RUM available in looks wise (not a huge fan of their XCR look or the CDL/BDL wood stocks)..
I've also been toying with the idea of buying another gun, and having it re-chambered to the 7mm RUM just not sure what that would run or if i have a quality gun smith in the area that could handle it, but if I was what chamber would you suggest I buy, a 7mm mag? .270? Or should I just wait on the 7mm and hope they offer it in other models or other manufacturers will start putting this round in their gun. Just looking for opinons helps me finally making up my mind a whole lot easier I hope [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
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Old 05-03-2006, 08:31 PM
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Re: Question on 7mm RUM and Elk hunting

Pick one and dont look back. If you start messing around with buying a 7mm Remingtom mag, and have it bored out, it gets time consuming and expensive. Bear in mind the box magazine and bolt will also have to be re-cut to feed correctly and get the bolt face to accept the bigger round. Dont start with a geo metro and try and make an impala out of it. If you want an impala, buy an impala.

Just my .02!
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