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Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

 
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Old 09-08-2012, 12:49 AM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

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cannot speak for Vortex in this department but I can for Hawke they have a lifetime warrenty.
My friend put one on and used thick ring tape then over tightened it and it boogered up the side focus (it can happen to any scope) he called sent it in and they had a brand new scope mailed back to him. the process took less than a week he recieved the new scope with a detailed letter on why the old one was malfunctioning. The rep gave him his personal cell number and said if he ever had another problem call him directly and he would handle it. that IMHO is just as good as anyone. with scopes were lucky, I have delt with:
nightforce
sightron
leupold
hawke
and all were great and easy to deal with. gotta give the edge though to leupold and hawke.
I have to ask, because I'm curious, what is ring tape? Been mounting optics for 30 years and never heard of it???
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Old 09-08-2012, 01:23 AM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

I have owned both vortex and Leupold and have found that vortex is somewhat comparable to the leupy. that however is in regards to mechanical function. glass is better in the leupy without a doubt but vortex has my vote in a budget battle.
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:19 AM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

i have just got myself a vortex and must admit they give my smit/b and zeiss a run for the money.
i have now sold the others and have ordered another 2 vipers and with the change took the wife out for a meal (im so in the good books now).
why spend 1000+ when you can get 2 for the price of 1 that do the same job and are as clear as they are.
people seem to spend on a name rather than the product.... VORTEX FOR ME ALL THE WAY NOW
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:11 PM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

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I have to ask, because I'm curious, what is ring tape? Been mounting optics for 30 years and never heard of it???
some people like to put a piece of tape around the inside of the ring to make sure the scope can't slip. I don't buy into it but it is something some people do.
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Old 09-17-2012, 02:15 PM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

Hawke is a major player in the glass field. Basically glass comes from
Germany
Japan
China

German glass is great as is Japan's but china is creaping up very close to the others with some technology. and I bet within the next year or so Hawke will be a huge player. I bet people have used more glass that Hawke has cut than they know.
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:08 AM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

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some people like to put a piece of tape around the inside of the ring to make sure the scope can't slip. I don't buy into it but it is something some people do.
Thanks for the clarifacation. I heard that term used once before but I never knew what it referred to. I don't buy into it either. Properly aligned and lapped rings provide almost 100% circumferential contact and if the ring is clamped to the manufacturers torque value, nothing will slip.
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Old 12-12-2012, 01:18 AM
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Re: Poll: Vortex Viper or Hawke Sidewinder

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Thanks for the clarifacation. I heard that term used once before but I never knew what it referred to. I don't buy into it either. Properly aligned and lapped rings provide almost 100% circumferential contact and if the ring is clamped to the manufacturers torque value, nothing will slip.
I've known a lot of people including several gunsmiths that would use one piece of double stick tape on the bottom ring half of just one ring.

They would use to get the scope perfectly level and stuck in place so it wouldn't shift/cant when the rings were tightened down.

Of course most of these were also people who had never even heard of lapping scope rings HA!
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