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Old 10-30-2007, 11:05 PM
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Please help me build a Rifle.

Ok, here's what I'm looking for. I need a rifle capable of having 1000yd elk knockdown power. I would appreciate suggestions on specific builds, including stock, chamber, trigger, barrel, estimated price of configuration, gunsmith, etc. I would like a chamber that is relatively easy to get brass, I'll be doing all my own reloading. Also this rifle will be used for elk and deer, which will reguire as much as a couple mile hikes into the wilderness with it. Once there I'm just looking to climb a knob and set up position. Please reply with your best build configurations for such a rifle, the thing I know for sure right now is that I like the Mcmillan A3-A5 stocks. Thanks for the help guys.
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Old 10-31-2007, 08:48 AM
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Ok, here's what I'm looking for. I need a rifle capable of having 1000yd elk knockdown power. I would appreciate suggestions on specific builds, including stock, chamber, trigger, barrel, estimated price of configuration, gunsmith, etc. I would like a chamber that is relatively easy to get brass, I'll be doing all my own reloading. Also this rifle will be used for elk and deer, which will reguire as much as a couple mile hikes into the wilderness with it. Once there I'm just looking to climb a knob and set up position. Please reply with your best build configurations for such a rifle, the thing I know for sure right now is that I like the Mcmillan A3-A5 stocks. Thanks for the help guys.
I just went through the same process you are going through, 1000yd elk knockdown power was the fly in the ointment for me. I really liked the 7mm Allen Magnum and almost went that way. I decided to go with more power and went with the 338AM. This meant a couple more pounds to carry, but a whole lot more downrange pop! If I had went with the 7mm AM, I would have had it built specifically for the 200gr wildcat bullet. If/when I have a 7mm AM built, it will be a little brother to my 338AM


Here is what I would have built in a 7mm AM-
McMillan A5 (adjustable cheek piece, flush mount swivels on left side)
Jewel trigger
BAT action with fluted bolt
20MOA rail
Nightforce ultralight rings
Nightforce 3.5x15x50 NXS scope
Lilja barrel 30" fluted
Slab muzzle brake

Thats what I will have built when I get my 7mm AM, I'll have it built to 12lbs or so.

I'd have Kirby put it together for me as well. There are a couple pics of my 338AM on this topic New arrival (almost) 338AM 4days and counting



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Old 10-31-2007, 08:53 AM
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That is one sweet looking rifle, if you don't mind what was the finally $$$?
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That is one sweet looking rifle, if you don't mind what was the finally $$$?
Around $4k without glass or brass.

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Old 10-31-2007, 02:10 PM
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i have a question about reloading for a 338AM what are all of the componets to reload for this case and what are the approximate costs associated because iam about 1 day away form ordering one, excluding the muzzel brake i hate the additional noise and dont mind recoil i love my 338 RUM and am already addicited to the round but the know how to reload for it is one thing and iam guessing its alittle different for the 338AM any help would be appreciated
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Old 10-31-2007, 03:22 PM
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i have a question about reloading for a 338AM what are all of the componets to reload for this case and what are the approximate costs associated because iam about 1 day away form ordering one, excluding the muzzel brake i hate the additional noise and dont mind recoil i love my 338 RUM and am already addicited to the round but the know how to reload for it is one thing and iam guessing its alittle different for the 338AM any help would be appreciated
thanks
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Well, its not a round I would recommend learning to reload with. I've just started with this round over the last couple weeks (others here have been reloading for it for a year).

1) Components : Brass around $2/each. Then you add a little for fireforming (I think Kirby charges around $1)
408 Chey Tac brass. You can fireform your own or Kirby can fireform them in a jig he's built.
2) Bullets: Most use either the Sierra Matchking in 300gr or one of the heavier Wildcat bullets. I chose the Sierra, since they are readily available
3) Powder: Although several have been tried, I believe the #1 powder is Hodgdon H50BMG (from 143-145gr is the typical load range)
4) Primers: Federal 215

Tools required.
1) You can't use the smaller presses, as they don't have a large enough loading window. The larger Reddings and RCBS's work great. (Redding Ultra 700 and RCBS AmmoMaster 2 are examples)
2) I like hand priming and use a Lee hand primer. But it wont work on such a large shell. I bought an RCBS handprimer and had to grind off the top to make the shellholder fit! (BTW: shellholders are $15/each)
3) You will want to be able to trim the cases square. My RCBS trimmer wouldn't work (not big enough). I had to buy the larger Forster trimmer kit.

Other than that, its just like reloading for any other rifle.

The dies that Kirby provides are awesome. My typical runout is less than .001" on loaded rounds. Having a perfectly square chamber doesn't hurt either.

Unless you are getting a pretty heavy rifle built, I'd recommend a muzzle brake. After all, this round has more than 7000ft lbs of energy at the muzzle! Besides, with this round, you should wear hearing protection with or without a muzzle brake.

Hope this helps, I'm sure others will add their thoughts.

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Old 10-31-2007, 03:30 PM
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Motrapper,

Sent you a PM as well.

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