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Observations and Impressions!

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Unread 03-01-2012, 10:21 PM
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Observations and Impressions!

I've been a member of this forum now for quite some time and quite often, from a lot of questions and statements that have been made I am left with the impression that many of the posters that come here have very little experience in the shooting game and a minute or total lack of knowledge within the field of ballistics. Please don't take this as a 'slam' against anyone...for this is not the intention of this posting I can assure you, rather it is an attempt to offer assistance to help clarify what can be done to make a person be more self confident within the world of long range shooting. Many of us have been fortunate enough to have military backgrounds, and as such, a lot of us have also been fortunate in that we have had the opportunity to have competed in NRA High Power events, either at the military or civilian levels. And without a doubt...this gives one a 'leg up' so to speak above those with less experience. First off...become proactive; GET INVOLVED! It doesn't make any difference whether the game be NRA High Power, Bench Rest Shooting, Palma, Tactical shooting, etc., just GET INVOLVED! Find where some events are being held and attend, join any nearby local shooting clubs, introduce yourself to various people and ask questions! One doesn't get anywhere in life by being bashful! Reading can cure a lot of ignorance and with the data out here in the real world today with computers there isn't much hidden data! All one has to do is a little research and it's out there! In my opinion, one of the best ways to learn the game of long range shooting is by having an 'old head' teach one the game..a mentor! Early on my Dad was my mentor; later on I had lots of mentors, the instructor cadre of the United States Army Marksmanship Training Unit at Ft. Benning, Georgia where I was a member of the Service Rifle team. And for anyone that happens to know possibly any ex-member of one of the military teams that is actively shooting and willing to offer instruction, take the opportunity of his/her help! Basically there are two categories of long range shooters; those that wish to learn the art for improving their chances of taking game afield and that segment that wishes to just be able to punch holes in paper or to clang steel! I am lucky in that I partake of both segments! All of my grandchildren are hunters and shooters and the first rules that I taught them were that rifle marksmanship consist basically of four basic things to wit:

1. Position
2. Sight Alignment (Whether irons or scope)
3. Trigger Control
4. Mental Attitude (Most important 6" of shooting lies between the ears)

All four of the above work in concert with each other and the rules governing their usage are ironclad in nature and totally unyielding in the demand for adherence to each and every segment thereof! Perfection in each of the four are required; nothing less! Of the four if I had to site one as the most important it would be POSITION!

So in order for those wishing to learn the art of long range shooting, please be advised that it's not like it's shown on TV! It's a game that requires a lot of mental preparation and training and it's not something that's learned overnite! Rather...it may take years to become proficient in the art of wind reading alone, not even counting learning to master the IRONCLAD RULES OF MARKSMANSHIP!

"You don't have no idea how little I care!"

Monte Walsh
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Unread 03-01-2012, 11:25 PM
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Re: Observations and Impressions!

You're absolutely correct.

However, it occurs to me that (1) even those with little experience often have something valuable to contribute and (2) some of those with lots of experience have been doing it all wrong all their lives.

So, it's nice to have public peer review and a few experienced guys who do their best to ride herd and ensure that myth and conjecture don't get mistaken for science and fact.

And, it's often at those times when someone's hand gets called that we really learn something.

I just wish Len would ban polls and discussions about factory rifle accuracy. We might as well be talking religion, ethics, or politics.

-- richard
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Unread 03-02-2012, 12:22 AM
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Re: Observations and Impressions!

Well, I will agree and disagree. I tend to not post on any thread that involves long range shooting because I haven't ever shot past 600 yds. So I don't know enough about long range shooting to say anything about it. I do read the treads to try to pick up tactics and ways to shoot long range though. I am going to start getting into long range shooting this year. The good thing is that you can pretty easily tell who knows what they are talking about and who doesnt just by reading their post.

I am a Firearms Instructor for a Federal Law Enforcement Agency so I am an avid pistol shooter. A lot of the skills in pistol shooting are the same with rifles (trigger control etc). But wind, range and the effects all of the long range variables have on the bullet as it flies will take me a little while to get used to. But hopefully, I will be successful.

I agree in what you say about the lack of knowledge as I am lacking in it (reason why I don't post in long range threads). But there are different levels of skill on this forum. You are obviously very skilled in long range shooting so to you the ones that don't have as much time or skill at this than you may seem like they have no clue but may have useful knowledge to someone with less skill than themselves. Like I said, most people have a little bit of knowledge to empart and the ones that are totally full of it can be figured out just by reading what they post.
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