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New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

 
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:45 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I am talking from experiance. I shot an elk at 740 meters with a 200 grain accubond out of a 300 wby improved. I was by myself with no spotter and the snow was light and fluffy ( couldnt see hit if missed). I shot one shot and the elk didnt even flinch. At this point I was trying to think, high or low. I guessed high because I thought if it was just low maybe I would have seen something or he would have jumped. I dropped my scope one minute and was getting ready to shoot again and he dropped dead in his tracks. Upon inspection there was only a drop of blood on the snow and the bullet was 30 caliber in and 30 caliber out. I have shot many animals at similar distances or farther with sierra match kings and they work awsome in those situations. Second example is my cousin who likes to hunt but not a big long range shooter was shooting 500 yards. My grampa was a big sharps shooter and has a 6'x8' 3/8" or so plate steel he would shoot across the meadow. Well any ways Ryan was shooting this plate out of an 06 and those accubonds were stuck in the plate, they didnt shoot all the way thru but they punched a hole with the boat tail sticking out the back.
Dont get me wrong, I still use them for my jump out of the truck and shoot quick guns. They work great and keep the blood shot down, but at long range guarantee they wont work like a Sierra Matchking.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:04 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

Well this thread isn't about bullets, and I do not use the 200grn 30cal or 300grn 338cal accubonds but my experience with other weights is completely backwards to yours, for me they act like a Partition or Ballistic Tip, more so like a ballistic tip just slightly more controled. My best friend shot a 225# hog at 140yrds with a 165grn from an 06, upon cleaning and quartering I collected 6 pieces of bullet, one being the base, another the white tip, and the rest just copper fragments. They don't seem very controled to me, but I started using amaxs anyway, they work and they're cheaper.
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Old 01-19-2013, 02:06 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

A buddy of mine shot a deer last hear with a .284" 140gr ballistic tip last year and it rip it apart. Granted the shot was at 29 yards... and he hit the shoulder... but there was about 9-10 holes in that exit wound. It was carnage to say the least. I just like my exit hole to be 1 hole haha.
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Old 01-21-2013, 08:01 AM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I think some are missing the idea of my new gun. I know my STW is perfectly adequate for shooting Elk at 600, I have not shot an Elk at that distance but I have an Antelope and it was devistation and would not hesitate on a Elk. The REASON for the new gun is a new stock design over the conventional stock. I cannot restock my Sako for less than than I could buy/build me a new one. Why not have 2? Why not have more HP than my STW while I am at it so I can hunt dangerous game country without worry?

Right now I am leaning very hard at 2 new options.

.340 Roy Mark V Stainless Alaskan used in primo condition $899

.338 RUM Remington XCR II NIB $799.00

So what do you all think now??

Thanks for tyhe replies so far, great info!!
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Old 01-22-2013, 01:35 AM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

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I think some are missing the idea of my new gun. I know my STW is perfectly adequate for shooting Elk at 600, I have not shot an Elk at that distance but I have an Antelope and it was devistation and would not hesitate on a Elk. The REASON for the new gun is a new stock design over the conventional stock. I cannot restock my Sako for less than than I could buy/build me a new one. Why not have 2? Why not have more HP than my STW while I am at it so I can hunt dangerous game country without worry?

Right now I am leaning very hard at 2 new options.

.340 Roy Mark V Stainless Alaskan used in primo condition $899

.338 RUM Remington XCR II NIB $799.00

So what do you all think now??

Thanks for tyhe replies so far, great info!!
Both are good rifles. I actually like the XCR stock and with a little stiffening it could be a great stock.

Neither models comes with a long barrel so you'll not be able to burn all of that powder for either load so there's going to be a lot of blast, noise, and muzzle flash.

Another thing I'd say you need to consider is that both of these rifles come in at under 9lbs so recoil on either in the calibers you list above is going to be pretty darn nasty even with a good muzzle brake and recoil pad.

Personally I'd step back down to the 300wm in the Remington or 300wby/300wm in the Mark V if you are going to go with a rifle this light.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:12 AM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

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I think some are missing the idea of my new gun. I know my STW is perfectly adequate for shooting Elk at 600, I have not shot an Elk at that distance but I have an Antelope and it was devistation and would not hesitate on a Elk. The REASON for the new gun is a new stock design over the conventional stock. I cannot restock my Sako for less than than I could buy/build me a new one. Why not have 2? Why not have more HP than my STW while I am at it so I can hunt dangerous game country without worry?

Right now I am leaning very hard at 2 new options.

.340 Roy Mark V Stainless Alaskan used in primo condition $899

.338 RUM Remington XCR II NIB $799.00

So what do you all think now??

Thanks for tyhe replies so far, great info!!
Of these 2 choices, I'd go with the RUM. Going to need a brake or good recoil pad. As Wildrose said if your going to go with light rifle then back off to a 300wm. My .338rum that I had built weighs 12 pounds scoped and braked, it is a pleasure to shoot but a bit heavy when packing all day or climbing in steep country.
My goat chasing/lite rifle is a 300wm, 9lbs scoped(NF 2.5X10 set in Mark 4 rings and bases) loaded and braked. This is still a little heavy but is sweet to shoot and can still reach out to 800 confidently.
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Old 01-22-2013, 09:21 AM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I put a Hollands brake on a 338 RUM XCR and it was not bad at all to shoot, I used a stiff load of Retumbo and a 300gr OTM to test and I was surprised how nice it was to shoot. Brakes work best on lighter rifles with high muzzle pressure and this is a case where it certainly has both. Hollands has a brake that fits it nice and looks good on that trim a barrel and does not look like a potato shoved on your barrel.
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