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New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

 
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:08 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

If you want to see a difference over what you got a 338 RUM, Edge or Lapua with a 300gr Berger will get you there and will provide a serious smack down in the range your looking at, not needed but fun
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:13 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

If you are going to be dropping the new rifle into a different stock off the bat, why spend so much initially? You can get a brand new SPS in either of the RUM's for $500. You could also look at buying the action and then looking at a higher end barrel. Just seems like a lot of money to spend on a rifle when you are going to be ditching the stock anyway.

One other note, the magazine capacity for a 300 RUM should be 3+1, not 2+1 I think.

I personally have a 300 RUM and, for 600 yards and less, that is probably what I would recommend. You are going to have a very flat shooting round that has plenty of killing power for any game out to that distance. And really, the 300WBY would also be solid as well. I don't really see the need for a 338 for 600 yards. Just my $.02!
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Old 01-17-2013, 11:44 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I have the XCR I in .338 RUM. Its a 3+1. It is also one of the most accurate rifles I have shot (i lucked out, but i'll take it!)
You said the #1 thing is smackdown factor, the .300's dont even come close to the .338.
Flatter shooting... look up 210 barnes TTSX (g1 .414) @ 3400fps or 225 TTSX or AB's at 3265fps-3300.
I have shot from the 210's to 300 grainers in my rifle, out to 1108 and had great results.

Remember that the stock fitting your LOP is going to help you shoot ALOT BETTER. especially when theres alot of recoil involved. little guns dont shoot better than big guns, people shoot better with little guns (a little off point, but i had to say it)

I REALLY like the 300 RUM, especially running the 230's, but when it comes to raw HP, the .338 is the King of the heap by a long shot.

All that being said, the .338 is only the king of the heap if you know that you can handle the recoil.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:40 PM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I have used all three for hunting well pass 600 yards. Remember the more powder and bullet you push the more recoil generated, the harder it is to see your hits and slower on follow up shots. If you were looking from a pure ballistic standpoint a 30-06 would fit the bill. Buy a 300 win mag, shoot bullets like the nosler 200 grain accubond for the moose or bear and use sierra mk or bergers for elk and smaller. I would stay away from the accubonds for over 300 yards because they are to good and may not open up. With the 300 you can still reach out and shoot well past a thousand.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:38 AM
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

I'm primarily a Savage fan, however I own a few Vanguards, they give up nothing to the remingtons, the actions are smooter, the extractor is a better design, the bolt is ported which is a plus to vent gases if a primer rupture occurs, the barrel tenion is the same size so no difference in strength, and to top that they offer a accuracy garuantee, remington does not, remington actions are good cheap donors if you want a custom because of available parts but that's about it. As for the 24" barrel on the 300wby Vanguard, I have one, I run 208 amaxs at 2995fps with H1000, granted I have lapped the lugs, put a B&C medalist stock on it and a timney trigger, and a brake which makes it feel like a 308, but it is a 1/2 moa rifle and if it had the 2 more inches of barrel it would be at no disadvantage to the 300RUM, and use a lot less powder. Btw RUM brass cost almost as much as norma for the wby and none of the RUM brass is all that great. You do not need any kind of necked down 404jeffery or a lapua for 600yrds on anything on this continent. Run the numbers for energy with the load I use 208x2995x2995/450400, that's your muzzle energy, plug that into a ballistics calculator with a .648 g1 bc and see what you got left at 600yrds, its enough to look like the animal was smacked by a full size truck running 70mph.
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

Unless you just really want to go bigger your 7mm STW is more than adequate for anything out to 600yds and beyond.

The .300 Rum or .300wm for that matter are also all you need and more based on your criteria.

To be areal honest the .300wm would be my choice rather than those you list but of those you list the .300Rum would be the way I'd go.

Disclaimer I own several each of the 7mm STW's and 300wm's as well as the 300 Rum.

There's simply nothing on this continent I'm inadequately gunned for with those and even for an African hunt the 7mm STW and 300wm are more than adequate for everything but elephant and cape buff.
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Re: New Rifle choices, need opinions, .300WBY, 300RUM, or 338RUM??

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I have used all three for hunting well pass 600 yards. Remember the more powder and bullet you push the more recoil generated, the harder it is to see your hits and slower on follow up shots. If you were looking from a pure ballistic standpoint a 30-06 would fit the bill. Buy a 300 win mag, shoot bullets like the nosler 200 grain accubond for the moose or bear and use sierra mk or bergers for elk and smaller. I would stay away from the accubonds for over 300 yards because they are to good and may not open up. With the 300 you can still reach out and shoot well past a thousand.
I'm not sure where you are coming from with this. I've never heard of Accubonds failing to expand even at 600-1000yds.
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