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Old 12-19-2011, 06:47 PM
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New to long range shooting

Hello, I am newbie to the site and hope I can get a little direction here. I am trying to get information on how to be sucessful at long range shots. I whitetail hunt on open land , mostly clear cut and powelines. I have had opportunities to shoot game at ranges from 400 to 700 yard , but never would take the shot because I just figured the game was out of range. I realize that these shots are not impossible, because I have seen it done on tv. I just dont have any experience at these shot, and am wanting to learn how to chose the right equipment to make these shot. I probably already have the equipment, but Im thiniking I just need to practice these shot. If anyone is willing to reply with some info I would greatly appreciate it. I badly want to become a long range shooter. Ok so here is my gear, which one to use I dont know which is better for the situation. I have a few rifles to choose from; a tikka t3 300wsm, a styer 260rem, and ruger m77-30.06. All with high power scopes Nikon2.5-10x50 and Weaver 4-20x50. I have good binoculars and range finders. My hunting situation could either be from a elevated stand or from the ground which makes me think that I should invest in a mounted tripod for the rifle. Any input would be appreciated, and Thanks in advance

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Old 12-19-2011, 07:01 PM
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Re: New to long range shooting

Any of the 3 will work. Which rifle is the most accurate? Which one are you most comfortable using? Do you hand load or do you use factory ammunition? The scope you mentioned, do they have ballistic reticules, duplex, or target style turrets for adjusting elevations and windage? Answer these and we can start making more suggestions.

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Old 12-19-2011, 07:20 PM
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My prefrence is the tikka 300wsm and the styer Rem260 , which both are accurate, but I like the knock down power of the 300wsm. I have always used factory core lokt ammo; 300wsm-150gr, and 260-140gr. My scopes do have turrent adjustment on them and the rectile is a standard duplex crosshair. Hope this will help , and thank you for replying with help on my endevor.

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Old 12-19-2011, 10:00 PM
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Id use the T3 300wsm with DOUBLE TAP brand ammo in 180 nosler ballistic tip and pratice, if you start reloading the 190 berger vld will do you right, the 260 is a good option as well but its not going to happen with corelokts.
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Old 12-19-2011, 10:04 PM
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Hello, I am newbie to the site and hope I can get a little direction here. I am trying to get information on how to be sucessful at long range shots. I whitetail hunt on open land , mostly clear cut and powelines. I have had opportunities to shoot game at ranges from 400 to 700 yard , but never would take the shot because I just figured the game was out of range. I realize that these shots are not impossible, because I have seen it done on tv. I just dont have any experience at these shot, and am wanting to learn how to chose the right equipment to make these shot. I probably already have the equipment, but Im thiniking I just need to practice these shot. If anyone is willing to reply with some info I would greatly appreciate it. I badly want to become a long range shooter. Ok so here is my gear, which one to use I dont know which is better for the situation. I have a few rifles to choose from; a tikka t3 300wsm, a styer 260rem, and ruger m77-30.06. All with high power scopes Nikon2.5-10x50 and Weaver 3-10x50. I have good binoculars and range finders. My hunting situation could either be from a elevated stand or from the ground which makes me think that I should invest in a mounted tripod for the rifle. Any input would be appreciated, and Thanks in advance
All three of those calibers are more than capable of taking White Tails out to 800yds.

Your two best choices are the .260 and .300wsm with the latter being the best choice.

What you need to do now is have one of the accurized to a sub MOA level and then practice, practice, practice at ranges out to just beyond what you plan as your max range.

Scope wise I'd say you need to upgrade to at least a 14x44m or better in quality glass such as IOR, Leupold, Night Force etc. Get the very best you can afford as the quality of the glass and repeatability of adjustments is critical at long range.

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Old 12-19-2011, 11:14 PM
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Re: New to long range shooting

+1 on the advice of the previous posters. Let me add some simple practical steps that will help you get started with some early successes.

Do you have a place to shoot out to 600 or 700 yards? If so:

Build yourself a target stand out of 2X4s about 6' tall and 30" wide with a base so the uprights will stand up where ever you sit them. Use builders paper (available on a roll from Lowes) Roll out about 5' of paper and staple to the target stand. Now you have a target area that is 30" wide and 5' tall. This will keep you from missing the entire target at longer ranges (mostly anyway) and wondering where did that one go?? Stick one of those 3 or 4 inch stick on target dots about 1' from the top.

Set up or build a good solid table or shooting bench. Use sandbags or better yet invest in a pedestal front rest and rear bag. Get your rifle solidly in the rest. dry fire it 20 times paying close attention to any movement of the crosshairs to check for any twisting or flinching when breaking the trigger.

Set your target stand up at 100 yards, shoot a 3 shot group. Move it to 200 shoot a 3 shot group.......etc to whatever your max range is. Use the same aiming point. this will give you a fairly accurate drop chart for all the ranges.

To get rough dial up values you can do the math or you can try the following trick. With the target at 300 yards, place a second target dot at the center of your 300 yard group which will be several inches below your original dot. Now, put your crosshairs back on the original dot, then while holding the rifle steady dial your scope up (the crosshairs will move down) until the crosshairs are now on the dot that is the center of your 300 yard group. That is how much you will need to dial for 300 yards. This can be repeated for each range. (this is rough approximate drops and will need to be fine tuned with a few more groups at each range)

Moving a large target area like this out to ever longer ranges you will probably be able to keep all your shots on paper and work out quickly what your drops are and what the capabilities of you and your rifle are. You may be surprised at how well you can shoot at the longer ranges. As you get on past 500 yards you may want to start moving your target in 50 yard increments. Also remember to shoot 3 shot groups ALWAYS. At this stage in your LR development you do not need to draw conclusions or make scope adjustments from just one shot. You may eventually get there, but for now use the center of a group for your data point, not a single shot.

This is all pretty basic stuff, if you really get into this LR stuff you will eventually want to invest in lots more toys like a chronograph, ballistics program, high end rangefinder, etc, etc, etc....... But for now these simple steps should get you some success at 500 to 700 yards without any major investment above what you already have.

Have fun, keep reading the wealth of great info in the archives on this site, and welcome to the forum.
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Old 12-20-2011, 12:28 AM
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Re: New to long range shooting

BTW if you are stuck on shooting factory ammo at least for now the Remington Accutip, Grizzly with the 130gr ScirroccoII, and Federal fusion 130gr have all shot very well for me out to 800yds in the .260 Rem.
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