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Old 01-26-2010, 09:38 AM
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Tank, you talked about using the heavier .308 bullets. I was thinking about trying the Hornady 208 A-Max's with some IMR 4350. Could that round do double duty? Hunting and Target?

Yep... sure will. That is why I currently use it in my 300WSM. It gives me the ballistics that I am looking for, for long range target and hunting. This rifle is a dedicated long range varminter and deer rifle. My farthest to date is 630yrds and 605yrds through the melon of a groundhog. I have hits on steel at 1070yrds. Not quite the group I was looking for, but that was later to be found out it was the barrel going bad. Some will say not to use them short range, and I can agree to a point, but if you take soft body shots and try not to put them through the shoulders you will be okay. The head is always a quick kill too! Now at farther distances, enough speed will be scrubbed off that it will act more appropriately for hard target hits like the shoulders and the like. I would suggest 400+ yards for pinning the shoulders.

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Old 01-26-2010, 03:29 PM
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Re: New Gun...Shooting Tomorrow!

Thanks I'm new to reloading. I have most of the things that I need. I was looking for a bullet, hopefully my gun likes them. Any advise or things I should know about the reloading these?
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Old 01-26-2010, 04:18 PM
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Thanks I'm new to reloading. I have most of the things that I need. I was looking for a bullet, hopefully my gun likes them. Any advise or things I should know about the reloading these?
Yep, use the bullet seater and put in the brass!!!! ;) Just kidding!!!

I haven't had much luck stuffing them into the lands. I generally seat them about .015 to .010" from the lands. You may be able to seat closer and if you are stuffing it in to a magazine then you might be able to seat them farther. You'll have to just play around. What I do is set the desired length and do load tests (3 rnds. per load) moving in .5grn increments. I generally find an accuracy node this way. Then I test it again with a 5 shot string to verify.

Make sure you pressure test first finding your max load. Not owning a 300WM my loads in the WSM are about 10grns. less powder.

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Old 01-26-2010, 11:28 PM
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Yep, use the bullet seater and put in the brass!!!! ;) Just kidding!!!

I haven't had much luck stuffing them into the lands. I generally seat them about .015 to .010" from the lands. You may be able to seat closer and if you are stuffing it in to a magazine then you might be able to seat them farther. You'll have to just play around. What I do is set the desired length and do load tests (3 rnds. per load) moving in .5grn increments. I generally find an accuracy node this way. Then I test it again with a 5 shot string to verify.

Make sure you pressure test first finding your max load. Not owning a 300WM my loads in the WSM are about 10grns. less powder.

Tank
in a .300 wm it can be dangerous to go to low(big muzzle flashes and high pressures)!


start at minimum recommended specs and work up. i too use the .5 grain method then go to tenths and seating depths.
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Old 01-27-2010, 10:03 AM
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in a .300 wm it can be dangerous to go to low(big muzzle flashes and high pressures)!


start at minimum recommended specs and work up. i too use the .5 grain method then go to tenths and seating depths.

I know that, but mag length should not be an issue. The greater issue is the length of the tip to ogive that would cause it to jump quite a bit. The bullet measures 1.521" which is a fairly long bullet. Almost half of that length is the taper to the ogive.

I have read an article on 6mmbr.com where a guy using a .284 Win. actually seats a hair bellow the ogive because the bullet is to long to seat to the lands. If I remember correctly, he is using the 162 A-Max. If you work the powder up slowly, pressures should be seen before it becomes a safety issue. I have a feeling that mag length would not seat his bullet that deeply.

Tank
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Old 01-27-2010, 08:55 PM
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Re: New Gun...Shooting Tomorrow!

Sorry, but I don't see where you tell us what the name and model of scope you have there.

joseph
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Old 01-28-2010, 05:31 PM
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Sorry, but I don't see where you tell us what the name and model of scope you have there.

joseph
Joe, I don't know if you're asking me or Load. I have a Vortex Crossfire 8-32x50. Load's scope is a Millet lrs-1, i think.
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