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Unread 12-03-2007, 12:49 PM
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Sheese! Don't be so cheap;)

If you wanna get'er done, get'er done.

If you want to hit something at 1K get a 6BR or something of that order. If you want to "harvest" something at >1K get a real bullet with some umph out there.

Hmmmm a buck a shot for a 338 RUM and SMKs and a 270 AM w/WCs. Never tho't of it that way before. No wonder I'm so po!

Heck, I recall calculating the cost of my first deer in Idaho. A small doe. $36.00 per pound and that was just to get it dead. I quick figuring after that.

Originally Posted by 300whinny View Post
338 edge came to mind at the very start. It still does not solve the over a $1 a shot for the Sierra MK's.

Maybe a 7mm STW, 7mm/300WM, 300 Weatherby, 7mm Weatherby?

Choices choices

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Unread 12-03-2007, 01:15 PM
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That is indeed unfortunate as I really like my 338 Improved rifles but the brass is expensive but it is worth it..... The 300 RUM might be a good place to start with a wildcat-----I love my 300 Slowpoke which is based on the 300 RUM...
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Unread 12-03-2007, 02:18 PM
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If you are figuring that it is too expensive to shoot, then IMO that leaves out any of the 338s.

338 LM brass is long lasting, EDGE/RUMs are not, so cost as much or more over 10-15 reloadings. bullets would cost the same. Barrel life the same. No savings!

That leaves a 7 mm or 30 caliber. 240 SMKs are not cheap either but less than the 338s by a little. All magnums in the 7mm and 30 cal normally have an effective barrel life of 1000-1400 rounds for peak accuracy. The only one that is not is the 300 WSM. We have 300 WSMs that are over 3000 rds and still shooting long range BR, that is 2-3x normal magnum barrel life.

28-30" barrel they can run a 210 gr bullet (top weight in the WSM) out to 2950 fps and up. Sierra 200 gr has always been a "Go To" bullet in the accuracy game. Fairly inexpensive too. Now you are giving up max 100-150 fps for 2-3x more barrel life and cheaper components.

That is a good and smart trade IMO for what you described.

Not sure what the 7mm WSMs are doing on barrel life, but the normal magnum 7mm same issues as the 30 cals.

Might consider ordering another bolt while you are at it. A bolt and barrel in say 6mm BR or 6x47 might be a good choice for popping metal and smaller game.

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Unread 12-03-2007, 07:06 PM
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Thanks guys....

I have 2 1000yd lightguns both chambered in 6mmDasher. One on a Stolle and another on Lawton.

The Lawton Dasher is setup for LR varminting as well, but it is in a Shehane STBR stock. This is a setup and wait rifle, mainly for popping rabbits at a warren. Its not one to be carried.

I then have a Remington LTR in 223.. A 308W with a TAC30 action in a AICS.

I am after a rifle that can be carried, unlike the BR guns, but has more effective range than the 308. It will also be on a AICS, as they fit me well.

Bountyhunter.. the 300WSM sounds interesting. If I can get 2950fps with a 208Amax out a 28" barrel well that will be a perfect choice. Norma brass then?

I have been thinking of a 7mm/300WSM. Get the longer neck!

The long range hunting this rifle will see will be goats.

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Unread 12-03-2007, 07:27 PM
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Not sure the longer neck is really a major issue or advantage here for the work.

208s are good bullets but require true 308 bore. Broughtons are tighter for sure and will not work good, Harts are just right by the way.

JP and Peirre Lucas found out the hard way and had to work with the Hornady engineers to figure out it was the bore. Hornady gave them a bunch of the first of even pre productions bullets to shoot this las year. they also used them to whack several deer with very good results.

Norma brass, F210, H4350 or MRP have been my go to powders.

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Unread 12-03-2007, 08:45 PM
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Go the edge ! i ran the numbers on a build with a 338 lap vs the edge and it won hands down for cost.

I think a big boomer that is at least semi custom is going to be pricey especiallt when you buddy it up with a good scope. That being said i felt that the edge was a good balance between performance, cost to run and barrel life.

Where are you in Australia ? Send me a PM and we'll talk. I just had a 338 edge built recently and can tell you how it unfolded.


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Unread 12-03-2007, 08:47 PM
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Yes I did hear about the 208's and tight bores....

I plan on using a Aussia brand of barrel, but I will make sure of bore size before hand. If the barrels wont work, then I'll go for another brand that will.

Do you believe the 208Amax can be pushed to 2900-2950fps out of the 300WSM with a 28" barrel, not destroying the brass in doing so?

How many loadings do you get on the Norma brass?

You really have me thinking with the 300WSM.....

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