which new caliber for 13 yr old

[cole]

My boy has been and will be shooting his 243 this year. Next year he will be ready for more gun. I want a caliber big enough for Elk, but deffinately not a magnum. I've been considering 308 7-08 270 and 270wsm. I will probably put a muzzlebrake on gun. I do reload. Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Cole

[jeff 300]

i would look at a 30-06 or a 300wsm. my little girl shoots my 300wsm and she only 9 and weighs 60#. the gun has a good brake on it and weighs 15#. i would bet your son is way bigger than her. A rifle with a good brake and some weight is the ticket to a kid shooting a larger rifle.

[britz]

I would get him in a 7-08 w/out a muzzle brake because it is often the blast from the rifle that causes flinching as much as the actual recoil. You are always better off getting him in a small rifle that he can shoot well. Also, I'm assuming that you don't want a rifle that is increadibly heavy --- all the more reason to stay away from a much bigger rifle.

[BountyHunter]

+1 for the 7-08

BH

[cole]

Thanks for replies! Heres a little more info. Yes we are mostly hunters, so a light to medium weight rifle is more practical. My son is a very experienced shooter for his age. He has taken 100's of Prairie dogs and 2 whitetail bucks. He weighs 85 pounds. He shoots his 243 rem model 7, weighs about 6.5 pounds, without a brake of course. He can shoot around 50 -60 shells before it starts to bother him at all.
I have been looking at the 7-08 alot. looks like a great caliber. What would you say is the effective Elk range? I' ve also seen some great muzzle brakes that can be turned off. Great for the shooting range and hunting situation.
This year my son will be hunting antelope, mule deer and whitetail deer.
Next year we will add Elk.
Thanks all!

[Bull45cal.]

If you are talking Medium weight (7.5-9#) rifles, with muzzle brake, why not go for the .308. More bullet offerings in the hunting range. I can't knock the 7mm-08 though (great cartridge). I would go at least 7mm-08, but I wouldn't rule out .30-06 range. Since you reload, you can create reduced loads. I make reduced loads in .30-06 for my 10 year old nephew. He shoots it real well, considering the fact that it is a full size gun. I hunt with 130gr @ 2700fps out of my .30-06. It works very well, and I stress the very part.

[AJ Peacock]

He already has a .243, in my opinion the 7-08 is too close to the same power level to be a viable option (I own a .243 and 2 7-08's, so I'm not biased). I feel they are both too small for elk (kinda like giving a new shooter a .410 and sending them after waterfowl). Since you reload, I'd get him something that is a definite step up in power and simply have 2 loads (one for tons of practice, and the other for hunting). Even the hunting load doesn't need to be at the top of the power curve, but you may be surprised at how much he grows in the next year and just how much power HE will want.

I started shooting a 7mm Rem Mag when I was 13. It was a bit much for the first year, but after that, watch out.

There are so many great calibers it's tough to choose, but I'd lean towards a 300WSM, load some 308 power loads in a light bullet until he want's a little more umphh! There is great brass available, it's a short action caliber and is known for it's accuracy. It can be loaded up to levels that will take anything in north america and can be reduce loaded to very mild levels as well. 30 caliber has the greatest selection of bullets for reloading of any caliber as well.

I still shoot the same 7mm RM I was given when I was your sons age (new barrel, stock and trigger though ) and it is my favorite rifle. Get him something he can grow up with.

AJ