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Old 05-08-2013, 03:34 PM
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Really !? Learn to shoot that rifle and a 7mm SAUM will be reliable at more than two and a half times 400 yards. That particular rifle may not be accurate enough but the 7mm saum can get it done past 1000 yards. Once you reach the limits of your factory rifle you will have the bug bad and a semi or full custom build will in order. All the advice about learning all you can , reading some good books and all is spot on but that 400 yards being max effective range on game with a 7mm saum is just ignorant.
For that load from Remington, it sure is accurate. According to their site, the energy at 400 yards is 1,437 ft/lbs. Past that it drops off even more significant. I'm sure you can get more than that out of other loads, but when 1,500 ft/lbs is a good minimum for big game, I wouldn't suggest stretching it past that with that load. I don't know why you are jumping all over my back. You sure do have a quick trigger finger when it comes to doing that though...
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:41 PM
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Re: New 7mm SAUM Questions.

And for the O.P., yes, you can stretch the effective distance of that rifle past 400 yards for big game. For example, if you can push the 168's to 2,900fps as someone mentioned, that would get you out further depending on your altitude. At 1,000ft, your could get to 650 effectively. At 5,000 ft, it gets you to 700 yards. I would be interested to know what load Daveinjax thinks can work past 1,000 yards though, maybe there is something else you should be looking towards...?
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:12 PM
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And for the O.P., yes, you can stretch the effective distance of that rifle past 400 yards for big game. For example, if you can push the 168's to 2,900fps as someone mentioned, that would get you out further depending on your altitude. At 1,000ft, your could get to 650 effectively. At 5,000 ft, it gets you to 700 yards. I would be interested to know what load Daveinjax thinks can work past 1,000 yards though, maybe there is something else you should be looking towards...?
I was being round general when talking about max range. I haven't runthe numbers on Remington factory 150gr loadings but it appeared to be a general statement about 400 yards on game and that is just not even close to max effective range on game for a 7mm saum. I don't shoot the saum so I don't know the exact capabilities with a 168gr Berger hybrid but I know it's way more than 400 yards .
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:26 PM
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Re: New 7mm SAUM Questions.

I just used the Berger web page calculator and got this. A 168gr Berger hybrid , 2950 fps , 49, 5000', 5mph wind at 90. I based the 2950fps on the hodgdon manual 168gr Sierra hpbt max velocity of 2946fps with 63.7gr of supreme 780. I am confident I could push the berger 168gr hybrid at least as fast as the top book load and probably 50fps+ more.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:41 PM
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Re: New 7mm SAUM Questions.

Really looking to just punch paper guys.... Maybe in the future I'll hunt with it... but probably at like 200 yards. I just wanted this to learn and get familiar with longer range guns. I bough it with the scope, 50 rounds of ammo, and 100 empty cases for $700.
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Old 05-08-2013, 04:53 PM
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Re: New 7mm SAUM Questions.

Sounds like a deal. 200 yards is a chip shot for your rifle so have fun.
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Old 05-09-2013, 07:27 PM
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Sounds like a deal. 200 yards is a chip shot for your rifle so have fun.
Oh yes. And punching paper at 1000 should be possible too.
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