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Old 05-13-2014, 08:09 AM
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Re: new 7mm rem mag advice

Thank you guys for the warm welcome and loads to give a try!
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So far Im really liking this site! Anyone else with any words of wisdom for me?
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Re: new 7mm rem mag advice

Get you some Nosler brass, Berger 168 VLD's, Federal 215 primers. I use IMR 7828 SSC, but have also used Reloder 19, 22, and H1000.

I find 7828 SSC gives me the best velocity and temp stability during the temp swings here in the Alabama winters. If you're originally from Miss. then you know exactly what I'm talking about. It might be 15 degrees one morning, then 30 that afternoon. Then 25 the next morning and 50 that afternoon. Here in Alabama we have some erradic winter temp swings.

My hunting load is: Nosler brass (fire-formed), Berger 168 VLD's, 65.5gr of 7828 SSC, Federal 215M primer, seated to an ideal spec for my rifle.

Warning, 65.5gr of 7828 is a hot load, don't start there, but slowly work your way up to it, starting around 60 grains.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:13 PM
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Get you some Nosler brass, Berger 168 VLD's, Federal 215 primers. I use IMR 7828 SSC, but have also used Reloder 19, 22, and H1000.

I find 7828 SSC gives me the best velocity and temp stability during the temp swings here in the Alabama winters. If you're originally from Miss. then you know exactly what I'm talking about. It might be 15 degrees one morning, then 30 that afternoon. Then 25 the next morning and 50 that afternoon. Here in Alabama we have some erradic winter temp swings.

My hunting load is: Nosler brass (fire-formed), Berger 168 VLD's, 65.5gr of 7828 SSC, Federal 215M primer, seated to an ideal spec for my rifle.

Warning, 65.5gr of 7828 is a hot load, don't start there, but slowly work your way up to it, starting around 60 grains.
I am not from ms but I understand those temo swings here. I grew up in northern wi so those temp swings are alot more extreme..I will be doing all my reloading and such in new york where I am going to live after I separate from the navy this fall..I have been looking at the bergers to try down the road, but til I get the hang of things im going to give the 168 smk a run..I dont see the lower bc being a factor for quite some time til I get my long range trigger time and skills up. The vlds do seem like they will eventually be the ticket, but money to buy more stuff isnt an option for the time..got a future sniper on the way in august, so funds are tight for awhile.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:33 PM
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Thank you guys for the warm welcome and loads to give a try!
If you really want to get serious about long range shooting where your accuracy remains consistent, here are a few extra pointers. Some of these procedures are very simple to follow, some require some basic gunsmithing knowledge, but ALL will be very beneficial to the performance of your new rifle if they have not already been done to it.

There are many other things a person can do to a rifle, but this should get you started...

1)Make sure your barrel is completely free floating in the stock the entire way to the receiver. I like to fold a dollar bill in half twice and have it clear the whole way.

2)Bed the action and scope bases. I prefer to use Devcon Steel Puddy on the action and Devcon Epoxy or JB Weld on the scope base(s). For release agent, it's hard to beat Kiwi "neutral" color shoe polish.

3) Lap the scope rings. I use a Wheeler scope ring lapping kit. Label each ring as to whether it is front or rear, and which direction each ring was facing when you lapped it. Do not get them mixed up or put on facing backwards.

4) Make sure scope is perfectly leveled to bore and receiver bolt raceways. I use a Wheeler "Professional" scope leveling kit. Not the cheap Wheeler, the "Professional" kit.

5) Get your trigger set down to a nice and crisp 1.5 lbs with no creep or overtravel then test for slam firing by slamming the bolt down as hard as you can to see if the trigger goes off. This should go without saying but, MAKE SURE THE WEAPON IS UNLOADED WHEN SLAM FIRE TESTING ;)

6) Buy good quality dies. If you can't afford Whidden, I would recommend Redding or Forster. I kind of prefer Forster a little more because all of their seater dies have full case support before bullet seating begins. You have to pay a lot of extra money to get that from Redding.

7) Make sure your powder weighing scale is perfectly leveled and you are in a room free from wind or any kind of air movement and try to load the beast dang ammo you possibly can. Treat every piece as if it was the last shot you'll ever take...

8) HAVE A GREAT TIME AND ENJOY!!!
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:39 PM
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Re: new 7mm rem mag advice

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I am not from ms but I understand those temo swings here. I grew up in northern wi so those temp swings are alot more extreme..I will be doing all my reloading and such in new york where I am going to live after I separate from the navy this fall..I have been looking at the bergers to try down the road, but til I get the hang of things im going to give the 168 smk a run..I dont see the lower bc being a factor for quite some time til I get my long range trigger time and skills up. The vlds do seem like they will eventually be the ticket, but money to buy more stuff isnt an option for the time..got a future sniper on the way in august, so funds are tight for awhile.
Thank you for your service. And congrats to you and the missus.

The VLD's work great for hunting from 50 yards and out. All of mine have been 175 yard or farther shots, so I can't verify anything as close as 50. But they way they performed, I wouldn't see why they wouldn't perform great at that close as well. I know I was so impressed with the 168 VLD's on whitetails, that I stopped loading Nosler Accubonds in my hunting loads, on the spot.
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Old 05-13-2014, 11:48 PM
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Re: new 7mm rem mag advice

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If you really want to get serious about long range shooting where your accuracy remains consistent, here are a few extra pointers. Some of these procedures are very simple to follow, some require some basic gunsmithing knowledge, but ALL will be very beneficial to the performance of your new rifle if they have not already been done to it.

There are many other things a person can do to a rifle, but this should get you started...

1)Make sure your barrel is completely free floating in the stock the entire way to the receiver. I like to fold a dollar bill in half twice and have it clear the whole way.

2)Bed the action and scope bases. I prefer to use Devcon Steel Puddy on the action and Devcon Epoxy or JB Weld on the scope base(s). For release agent, it's hard to beat Kiwi "neutral" color shoe polish.

3) Lap the scope rings. I use a Wheeler scope ring lapping kit. Label each ring as to whether it is front or rear, and which direction each ring was facing when you lapped it. Do not get them mixed up or put on facing backwards.

4) Make sure scope is perfectly leveled to bore and receiver bolt raceways. I use a Wheeler "Professional" scope leveling kit. Not the cheap Wheeler, the "Professional" kit.

5) Get your trigger set down to a nice and crisp 1.5 lbs with no creep or overtravel then test for slam firing by slamming the bolt down as hard as you can to see if the trigger goes off. This should go without saying but, MAKE SURE THE WEAPON IS UNLOADED WHEN SLAM FIRE TESTING ;)

6) Buy good quality dies. If you can't afford Whidden, I would recommend Redding or Forster. I kind of prefer Forster a little more because all of their seater dies have full case support before bullet seating begins. You have to pay a lot of extra money to get that from Redding.

7) Make sure your powder weighing scale is perfectly leveled and you are in a room free from wind or any kind of air movement and try to load the beast dang ammo you possibly can. Treat every piece as if it was the last shot you'll ever take...

8) HAVE A GREAT TIME AND ENJOY!!!
This is all stuff I do...except lap the rings. I use a picatinny setup so that is usually not necessary with good quality rings and a good rail, but some still do it.

However, everything else listed are things I do, and it is all good advice to follow.
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