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Old 10-31-2002, 07:39 PM
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Need some input form the members for a new project....

OK here's what I am after,,,

A LR rifle capable for deer to 800 and Elk to 500.. I need thoughs in this respect..

Action
barrel/maker/contour etc. (obvioulsy fluted)
stock (probobly McMillan)
Trigger ( jewell ) no brainer...
and most important Cal.

Heres the catch..

I need the whole outfit with scope and mounts to stay at 10lbs or under BUT.. still be worthy of LR accuracy AND NO wildcats gotta be a cal. maufactured commercially...

Looking forward to the imput!! TIA!!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 10-31-2002, 08:01 PM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

This weighed about 8 or 8.5#: Rem 600, Lilja fluted #5 or 6 at 26", brake, .300 WSM, Older Brown Precision glass stock, alum. shroud, Rifle Basix trigger, recoil pad, 6.5-20 X 50 Leu LRT. The goal was a light rifle that would shoot 5 shots in 5" at 500 yards. If I could add 2" to the barrel and let it weigh 10# I'd Consider a bigger .30 cal case. Also, I would go with a 40mm scope. Rifle belongs to a friend.
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Old 10-31-2002, 08:20 PM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

action- pick one, Remington, Winchester, or variety of custom according to your wallet, If going to true action then go ahead with custom, stolle, viper, nesika.

barrel, - finished 26-28", 7 contour Hart, Lilja or Spencer. Like Spencers myself, and Army SOF found best shooting of all they tested. They just gave him big bucks to expand his shop and build barrels for them for sniper rifles and SR 25s. Mine shoot great and clean up quicker than anything I have seen.

Caliber- 300 weatherby with short throat. Fast, flat with heavy bullets (190-220 gr) but will not beat you to death. Can get factory ammo anywhere. With short throat it should shoot anything under 1 MOA.

Stock- McMillian, pick your pattern, Pillar bed it. No bedding block, if you go the bedding block, then "skim" bed it to reduce torque.

Scope is Leupold 4-14 or 6-20 or Nikon in same with mil dots. Obviously if $ is no issue, then maybe Swarvski or Zeiss. However, not sure the improvement is worth the $ from my experience for what you want. Both of others have good clear glass and mil dots for no clicking of settings.

Pick your bases and rings, but not tactical so no need for tapered or overkill. Almost any good quality will work lapped in.

Should finish up around 9 lbs depending on what you select.

Good luck with the project!
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Old 11-01-2002, 11:12 AM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

From what I have read, sounds like a Browning A bolt in the 300WSM will fill your bill. A Sako, Savage, Rem 700, Win 70 in 300win mag will do the same thing.

I am guessing that when you mean hunting accurate, you mean 100% hits on a milk jug at max distance with a bullet that will put a quick end to your hunt.

Load up the 300WSM or Win mag with some Hornady SST 165 or 180. Work up an accurate load which should be straight forward, and have at it. I have found the SST's to be as accurate as match bullets...my new bullet of choice.

For a custom job, any US production action will work. Get a reasonable barrel (Midway, Montana Riflemen, ER Shaw through to match guys like Lilja, Hart, Pac Nor, etc) properly installed and chambered (specify a short throat), fit the whole thing to a laminated or composite stock (don't know your build so you will have to try a few for fit) and burn powder. The cal. choice would stay the same.

Stick with a 24" barrel in a standard to heavy sporter contour. Not a big fan of fluting as it is one more thing that can screw up an otherwise great barrel. Remove the weight by turning the barrel. I hope, you are not planning on shooting more then 4 rds at your intended target. If so, a sporter weight barrel is more then stiff enough for the accuracy you seek.

Have fun...

Jerry
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Old 11-01-2002, 01:15 PM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

As others have stated, look into a 300 WSM. I got a A-bolt and for a stock rifle and some handloads this combo has become a deadly lighweight compact killer out to 550yards so far for me. As far as bullet preformance at that range, plenty of energy to provide a exit hole with a Balistic tip. I like it. An Elk sized animal would be a no brainer at 500 yards with the proper bullet. Possibly a failsafe or barnes X.
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Old 11-01-2002, 04:39 PM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

Rem 700 ADL
26" #4 Barrel
McMillan M40A1 Stock
338WinMag

Load 300gr SMK to 2450 fps
(only 25moa to 800 from 100yd zero)

A 10x MK4 M3(or anything with tgt turrets that suits you) in about any rings/base that suits you.

This should come in just under 10 lbs.

Range Velocity Energy Momentum Drop Windage Lead Time
(yards) (ft/sec) (ft-lbs) (lbs-sec) (moa) (moa) (moa) (sec)
0 2453.8 4010.8 3.27 --- --- --- 0.000
100 2340.7 3649.5 3.12 -0.0 0.5 21.0 0.125
200 2230.9 3315.2 2.97 -2.3 1.0 21.6 0.256
300 2123.5 3003.5 2.83 -5.3 1.5 22.1 0.394
400 2018.9 2715.0 2.69 -8.7 2.1 22.7 0.539
500 1917.5 2449.1 2.55 -12.3 2.7 23.2 0.692
600 1819.5 2205.3 2.42 -16.2 3.3 23.9 0.852
700 1725.2 1982.5 2.30 -20.5 4.0 24.5 1.022
800 1634.6 1779.8 2.18 -25.0 4.7 25.2 1.200

This would be my solution.

MM
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Old 11-02-2002, 10:21 PM
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Re: Need some input form the members for a new project....

What about a sako trgs from lazzeroni in 7.82 or the 338 version? then all you need is good rings and a 6.5 to 20 50mm Leupold, and a muzzle brake.My friend has one and shoots to 1000yds with it, but they come from sako 1in12 twist so probably no bullets over 200 grains. Did imention to get a muzzle brake? just my thoughts ebb
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