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Old 05-29-2003, 07:27 PM
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need help pick action

im think of making a long range rifle in 338 RUM with 29" barrel.
here the two actions/rifle im looking at ,the first one is RUGER no1, the orther is rem 700 pss in 300RUM,os wich one do buy ,one more thing who makes the best barrle for the 338
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Old 05-29-2003, 07:51 PM
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I would go with the Remington action. There are a lot of excellent barrel makers out there I am shooting a Lilja 338 barrel and have been pleased with it.
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Old 05-29-2003, 11:10 PM
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Re: need help pick action

I'd buy the Rem 700, it will be more accurate than the #1 will be.

It will feed the 338 Ultra as is too.

I'd get a Hart, Lilja, Pacnor or Krieger depending on how long you want to wait... they all make top notch barrels. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]

I was just looking at the 338WSM ballistics with a 300gr SMK, my dad's building one, and the trajectory wasn't very good but, it had more energy at 1000 yards with a MV of 2500 fps than the 30 cal 178 A-Max with a MV of 3400 fps. To be exact, it had half again as much energy left at 1000 yards than the 30 did. Pretty impressive, I thought.

Misjudge the range by too much and the 338WSM and the 300 SMK wouldn't be the one I'd want to be shootin though. The A-Max shot about half again as flat...
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Old 05-30-2003, 12:24 AM
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I was researching the Ruger No.1 and No.3 for a 45-110 candidate. These rifles don't shoot! It's either you get lucky and it does 3/4" groups at 100 yards or it does 6" groups... If you want a falling block look for another action, if you want a small and light deer gun for under 200 yards it might be ideal.

Seriously I haven't read of one rifle that does less than 1/2" groups at 100 yards, even after tweaking and lots of modifying. Also, if you are replacing the barrel and are modifying the rifle, perhaps you can save some money by not buying the PSS model, or for that matter search out a Savage stainless single shot long action. Since the Savage doesn't use a one piece bolt they tend to be accurate because the lug play can match the poor machining. (Or custom machine a Remington action to be trued and such, or start from a custom action, BAT's for $750, Geske for $1200, etc.)

I have a .338 Lapua and a Vihatouri reloading book and it doesn't even mention the RUM.
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Old 05-30-2003, 05:31 AM
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For that large a caliber you would better off in the long run to go custom action. Too much money to true and sleeve a 700 action triced out compared to the custom actions and then lose 50% of the resale on a 700 vs custom. Now some will say use the 700 and no sleeve or other work, you can do that but in this game you get what you pay for in most cases when it comes to actions.

BAT actions start at $1025, but another very good couple to look at are the Stiller Python ($995) and Nesika ($1050)

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Old 05-31-2003, 07:34 PM
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Re: need help pick action

Brent how does it compare to a 30 cal. with a 240 grain goin 2900fps ? ive heard tell until way past 1000 they cant keep up with a 30 and you are comparing the heaviest smk they make in 338 against a mid weight 30. come on at least compare apples to apples. ebb
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