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Unread 04-22-2004, 08:35 PM
 
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

Sorry guys. I should have checked it out before posting. I have been following this topic and when I got the email I just thought it fit. I am usually a little more carefull about checking these things out. Ian, the sensorship was needed, no apology necessary.
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Unread 04-22-2004, 09:18 PM
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

I am going September of 2005 But I need to be ready I like to shoot a rifle alot and for a long time before I take it into battle so to speak. That is why I am trying to plan a year in advance and also trying to find some areas to hunt before I get there. I like to be prepared. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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Unread 04-22-2004, 11:33 PM
 
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

Dakor, my gunsmith told me about the push recoil thing. I personally don't know. I have not fired the 338 lapua yet. Biggest gun I fired to date is a friend's remington 300 RUM. Recoil has not bothered me yet.

At 12.5 lbs recoil should be 37-38 lbs.
I'll keep you posted.

By the way....I didn't see harv's post before it was removed. Was it that picture of the guy with no meat around his knee?
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Unread 04-22-2004, 11:36 PM
 
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

Dakor, with your gun weighing 10 lbs with scope. The 375 H&H will kick like my 12.5lb Lapua. The 338WM will kick a lot closer to the 7 STW. Around 30-31 lbs depending on load.

When try out the 375, weigh it. Because if your is lighter it will kick more. Keep that in mind.
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Unread 04-23-2004, 12:51 AM
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

Dakor, this is the gun the oldtimers used for very dangerous game at the bottom of this post... Notice the weight of the slugs and the velocity listed. It's still a sure killer of big, dangerous game, but the Sir Samuel Baker mentioned on the page liked even bigger bore guns than this example! Since you have a long time before you head to Alaska, you could read some of his exploits in America, shooting Griz in the Rockies, in Africa, India & Ceylon during the mid 19th Centrury - his books are online and FREE @ Gutenberg Project:
http://www.gutenberg.net/

My favorite is "Wild Beasts And Their Ways, Reminiscences Of Europe, Asia, Africa And America " He gets to hunt with some real Mountain Men while he's here in America. It's on this link below:
http://www.gutenberg.net/etext/3657

Albert N'Yanza, Great Basin Of The Nile, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Cyprus, As I Saw It In 1879
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Eight Years' Wanderings In Ceylon
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2000

In The Heart Of Africa
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: May 2002

Ismailia
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

Nile tributaries of Abyssinia, and the sword hunters of the Hamran arabs, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Mar 2000

Rifle And The Hound In Ceylon, The
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: May 2002

Wild Beasts And Their Ways, Reminiscences Of Europe, Asia, Africa And America -- Volume 1
by Baker, Samuel White, Sir
Released: Jan 2003

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Unread 04-23-2004, 06:46 AM
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

Dakor, I don't have a comparison pic of your 300 Mag with a .338 or .375, but maybe this comparison of the 308, 300 Win Mag, and a 338 Lapua Mag will give you an idea why some if not most feel that a bigger, heavier bullet would be better for Brown Bears in Alaska... Remember, if striking velocity is too high, you'll loose a lot of the bullet mass on entry. MOST rifle bullets work best in the range of 1900-2300fps at impact. IF you're fortunate (or unfortunate, depending how it turns out), to get a close shot at a GRIZ, you run the risk of a high speed bullet blowing up on the skin, muscle or bones of the bear. Start out with a heavier bullet and at least part of the bullet will penetrate and do the job that must be done...

Be sure to study the Ballistics Page @ Sabi Rifles website and understand about BIG HEAVY animals and weight retention of bullets. They have an excellent comparison of the 375 H&H you might find interesting - and they like the big 375 too!

SabiRifles Ballistics Page - See TERMINAL BALLISTICS CHART



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Unread 04-23-2004, 08:42 AM
 
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Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question

My deleted post was a story about some guy that shot a 14' grizzly that was a man eater. Some pictures of the bear and one of a partly eaten human. Turned out to be a made up story.
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