Re: Need Help With Grizzly Bear Question
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> Bear jumped back to his feet and took off again. We both shot him again and he stayed down. Autopsy showed 2 from the 30-06 right behind the shoulder and 2 from the .375 in the shoulder. NEVER underestimate these bears ability to take a hit and keep going. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
My buddy Bob hit his 10" BB 7 times as it came toward him from about 150 yards away where he finally died about 20 yards away from a spine shot entering just under the chin. Bob shot him 7 times with his 375 H&H and ran out of ammo on his last shot, with no back up. My brother was on a hill 1/4 mile off watching through a spotting scope as he wend down through the drainage trying to get sight of his Bear that was eating down there. Bob's first shot was a perfect broadside shot through "both" front shoulders, breaking them BOTH. The Bear got up, turned toward wher ethe shot came from and began running to it like he'd never been hit! Underestimate these suckers and you're in for a big surprise... Bob proceded to shoot him again and again as he came on him fast, thankfully he dropped with almost every shot. When he ran out of ammo in the mag, he began chambering them from his pocket one at a time until he felt for his last round. Derrick, my brother said, Bob just stopped shooting all of a sudden as the Bear got up and was fast closing the last bit of ground on him, Bob just got down on one knew and waited like a freak with a death wish as Derrick thought he ran out of ammo. Finally he saw the Bear go lifeless on his face and then heard the boom.
They said they had to gut and quater one side of the Bear because they couldn't roll the bear over to get the hide off of him, as both front legs were broke and they simply had no leverage on the huge Bear in the hole he was kind a laying down in.
As you can see, Bears don't always stop running when even both front legs are broke, and will often drag their rear end faster than you could ever think of running with their front legs if shot in the spine farther back, and they will circle in the brush then lie in wait for you too! They're SMART!
My brothers Bear took 4 from the 338 WM, and 3 from the 375 H&H before it stayed down for good, it did not run toward them but away.
Section density don't mean much when you already have enough to go one side through to the other, but I understand where you're coming from on it. Bullet diameter has much more effect than most people realize until they see it for themself. 40 caliber on up is where it really becomes quite noticable.
In the 338's we use 250gr Barnes X bullets, and I'd use them in the 300's as well, but I don't go after Grizz with my 30's.
I would shoot one with my 300 Ultra, or a 300 WM, but I would have to be totally comfortable with the situation first, just not my choice for big Bear is all.
I like John's last statement a lot.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><HR> One more thing, I mentioned that I would try to shoot within 200 yards, I would also try not to get closer that 100 yards. You'll need some time if he comes after you.
I have a 454 Casull for back up, but I hope to never have to use the little thing.
00 Buck on Bear, I'd use slugs unless you just want to tear some hide off it's face. I know people load it, but I wouldn't trust it on anything but Black Bear or home intruders.