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Old 06-15-2011, 02:58 PM
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Need Advice from Seasoned Shooters

Guys I am in the market for a nice Long Range rig based off the 338 Lapua round. I have never purchased a custom rifle but based off all the information I have read so far I think this will be the way for me to go. My questions are really what do I need to look for in a custom rig, what can I live without, ect.? The properties I currently hunt provide me with opportunities for Deer and Black Bear at 1000+ yards if I so choose but my current hunting outfits are not equipped to take those type shots so I am after my first custom rig and I want it to be a cherry without breaking my bank. So load me up with your best advice.
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Old 06-15-2011, 08:01 PM
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Re: Need Advice from Seasoned Shooters

Welcome to LRH! A lot of good guys here with good info. In my opinion, if you want to start out on a budget Savage has your back. They just came out with two different models in 338 Lapua that will get you started and a base to build off of as you gain experience.

Here they are:

Savage Arms Firearms > 111 Long Range Hunter (338 LM)

Savage Arms Firearms > 110 FCP HS Precision

Of the two of them, I would get the FCPHS Precision. It gives you an HS stock which is already after market and a great foundation.

As far as scopes are concerned, definitely spend the coin on a the best possible glass you can afford. I am an avid Vortex fan and like the PST. Though I admit I don't own one, its next on the list to buy. I do however own a Vortex Viper. Customer service is great if you have any questions.

The rifle already comes with a base, so rings are the next to buy. If you must have top of the line, then IOR or Night Force would be the way to go. Leupold would be my second option. I currently own Weaver Tactical but wouldn't suggest them for the 338LM. I will suggest the Burris XTR Tactical rings. I have owned them and I am still kicking my self for getting rid of them. Warne makes some really sturdy rings also.

Savage is a good base platform for the do-it-yourselfer. I built my own rifle off of a Savage action and its nice to see they make one in a long action suited for the Lapua Mag. You could only do one better and that is the BA 110:Savage Arms Firearms > 110 BA From my understanding this is essentially a BAT action, with a PDC stock. The nice this is that you can change to the grip to any AR style grip that you want. It does cost a lot, but about the same as a custom and you already get a BAT action and a PDC stock.

These are my suggestions. I know other guys will give some great advice on other builds.

Tank
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Old 06-15-2011, 09:03 PM
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Re: Need Advice from Seasoned Shooters

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[...]I want it to be a cherry without breaking my bank.[...]
How big is your bank?

Tank threw out some pretty good starter options for a rifle and a very moderate scope although I'm partial to Nightforce.

Killing animals at 1k is a lot more challenging than it sounds.

You'll also need to acquire a lot of premium supporting gadgets. In addition to basic hunting supplies, you'll need top of the line range finder, wind/weather, spotting scope, handheld ballistics calc, etc...)

Plus a really good reloading setup. Don't forget ammunition components, gasoline, range fees... the list goes on.

You have to start somewhere. But, you might as well start budgeting for the whole package.

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Old 06-16-2011, 08:14 AM
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Re: Need Advice from Seasoned Shooters

As far as optics, go Night Force, Leupold, Vortex, Sightron SIII, and the like. All very good options. Vortex makes an HD version that will put you in the price range of NF, and MKIV Leupy's. US optics, Hendsolt, Schmidt and Bender are other really good option. I always forget about IOR, so I will throw those in there too.

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Old 06-16-2011, 08:43 AM
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You could only do one better and that is the BA 110:Savage Arms Firearms > 110 BA From my understanding this is essentially a BAT action, with a PDC stock. The nice this is that you can change to the grip to any AR style grip that you want. It does cost a lot, but about the same as a custom and you already get a BAT action and a PDC stock.
Tank
Tank, the 110 BA is not a BAT action, it is a Savage long action that has been ramped up to be a Target long action. Most surely not a BAT as I can swap the bolt handle and bolt head, it's all Savage man! All three Savage 338 Lapua models use this action.
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Old 06-16-2011, 08:57 AM
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Tank, the 110 BA is not a BAT action, it is a Savage long action that has been ramped up to be a Target long action. Most surely not a BAT as I can swap the bolt handle and bolt head, it's all Savage man! All three Savage 338 Lapua models use this action.
Sweet, I just noticed the BA is a lot more beefy. Somewhere a long the lines I thought I had read that it was designed by BAT. But, I've been known to be wrong before... at least once! Thanks for the heads up. Hate to spread bad info. I really want one of the H-S precision models.

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"Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. [14] But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

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Old 06-16-2011, 09:01 AM
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I really like the savage option. I have a custom 338 Lapua and I absolutley love it so I am excited you want one. I kept a scrapbook of all the parts and labor that went into it and I am sitting near $4k and I got a really good price on my smith work because it was a guy my dad hunts with. That price includes my vx3 6.5-20x50mm scope, but if you add in the price of reloading components, reloading equipment if you dont already have it. Rangefinder and other glass the list goes on as mentioned above.
Point being You dont have to go custom to shoot 1k savage makes a super accurate rifle and to be honest i with they would have had these rifles available when I built mine because i would have bought one and saved myself a pile of cash. (dont get me wrong i love my custom more than anything) I would urge you to buy a savage. You can always build a custom later if it doesnt fit your needs.
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