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Old 11-15-2012, 07:40 AM
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My Entry Into LRH

I am and have been a die hard black powder shooter/hunter with a .50 flintlock rifle. I am an avid black powder competitor in local and state level matches. But I had this itch for shooting to ranges longer then I cared to get into with black powder. I already owned this 1974 Remington 700 in .270 that I bought in the late 80's for elk hunting when I couldn't use a front stuffer. It has always been an MOA shooter but I knew it could be better. I started with stripping the stock of the factory varnish finish and did a boiled linseed oil/thinner finish and then floated the barrel. Since I am on a budget for this project I decided to try the Tasco Target/varmint 2.5-10 X 42 true mil dot scope. I added the BlackHawk cheek pad and bi-bod. I made a run to the range and instead of the very expensive ammo I used to use I thought I'd try the Fusion in 130 grain. I was very pleased with the bullet performance. I did get about .85 MOA but I still wasn't happy with the trigger. I researched and found Aquila Precision Firearms of La Porte, Texas who offers Remington 700 accurizing packages. He bedded and pillared the stock, replaced the stock trigger with a Timmney trigger and up graded the firing pin. I had him do a muzzle brake as I anticipate shooting this rifle a lot and didn't want to worry about recoil. When I got it back from the shop I took it to the range. It now shoots to about .75 MOA and what a difference! Now to build my load which means getting into cartridge reloading. And then a lot of practice.
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Old 11-15-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: My Entry Into LRH

Sounds like you are on your way.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:06 AM
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Re: My Entry Into LRH

Yep, yur hooked!!

Great start!!

When you get to the reloading part there are plenty of 270 Win threads that will provide some great ideas.

Good luck and good shooting!!
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:37 AM
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Now that I have a little time. Look into some good brass. You could always buy some Lapua 30-06 and run it through your 270 sizing die. That would give you some really good brass to start with. Another couple of good options would be Norma and Federal. Norma is right up there with Lapua, so you can't go wrong there. I just loaded some Federal brass for my brothers 270, and it is a tack driver. So on the affordable scale the Federal is the way to go. I loaded the 150 Hornady SST. It has the second best ballistic coefficient of the 270 bullets. Berger's 150gr Hunting bullet would be the best. There are some other smaller vendors that will provide a higher BC bullet. Matrix is the first that come to mind. They have BTHP in 165 and 175 grain that will stomp either of my first suggestions. Some guys are having good luck with them. IF you should go this route, stick with the 165's as they seem to be the best bullet for factory twist barrels.

For powder can't go wrong with H1000, and H4831. There are some classic loads out there, but with the new powders, the 270 is a much better caliber than Jack O'Connor was touting it. There are some powders by Alliant that may be of consideration. Reloader 19, 22, 25, and Power Pro 4000MR. I prefer Alliant, but IMR and Ramshot should get a look also.

Primers are mute point some times. Most will work, unless you get finicky. I prefer Federal 210M's, my cousin prefers CCI2BR's. I have had great results with Wolf primers also. You'll have to play around and see which works best for you. It's good to have a few different types laying around. The arrant flier will happen. If it is a solid load that gives you a good extreme spread in velocity and a low standard deviation between each load, but produces a flier, changing primer can sometimes help. That is what I have found. If that doesn't fix it, then you will have to play with seating depth.

Well hope this helps you get started. Make sure you get a good set of reloading dies. I prefer Redding, though thinking about going back to Hornady. We'll see. Welcome to LRH.

Tank
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Old 11-16-2012, 01:11 PM
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Thanks for the information! You knocked off a bunch of questions that I had. I fortunately have Federal brass so I'm good to go there. I was planing on getting one of the Lee starter setups. This .270 will be the only cartridge that I'll be loading. I usually don't trust anything that I can't load from the front.
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In the fall and spring, I shoot a 50 cal CVA Frontier Carbine. I've had it since 1989. At those times, I shoot competition against other guys from Ohio and here in PA. I'm pretty decent with that little rifle. 30gr of 3F Goex will let me cut holes with round ball and patch.

As far as Lee starter kits, I would suggest the Hornady Lock-n-Load start up kit. They have some great peaces of equipment that come with them. If you don't get a powder measure w/ your kit, I would suggest looking into the RCBS digital scale. They work really well. As for load data, I am loading my brothers w/ 58.5grn of H1000. Not sure of the velocity, but it is very accurate for all the farther he plans to shoot it. Just check the book to make sure it's within the safe parameters or the powder.
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If you find your self in a fair fight, your tactics suck!- Marine 1st Sergeant Jim Ryfinger

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Old 11-16-2012, 06:00 PM
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In the fall and spring, I shoot a 50 cal CVA Frontier Carbine. I've had it since 1989. At those times, I shoot competition against other guys from Ohio and here in PA. I'm pretty decent with that little rifle. 30gr of 3F Goex will let me cut holes with round ball and patch.

As far as Lee starter kits, I would suggest the Hornady Lock-n-Load start up kit. They have some great peaces of equipment that come with them. If you don't get a powder measure w/ your kit, I would suggest looking into the RCBS digital scale. They work really well. As for load data, I am loading my brothers w/ 58.5grn of H1000. Not sure of the velocity, but it is very accurate for all the farther he plans to shoot it. Just check the book to make sure it's within the safe parameters or the powder.
My primary front stuffer is a custom .50 early Hawken style full stock flint lock. I've won many matches with it. I hold the Texas State championship in closed rifle with a .54 percussion half-stock Hawken. I also took second in the championship for light bench with it. I have the CWSA marksmen national championship for rifled musket. I used an Italian .58 1863 Remington Zouave. I just missed the Texas State Musket Championship with it too. Second place sucks. But it's still better then third.
I've done long distance black powder shooting with a friends Shiloh Sharps .45-70. He has it all tricked out and nailing steel rams at 400 meters was a snap. Trouble is in BP long distance it's about $1,000.00 per 100 meters in gun and sights. That's too much for my budget. My I have a 1861 Springfield .58 musket that is good to 300 meters so that will work for me.
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