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Old 03-12-2005, 03:54 PM
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muzzle loading question- help

I have a Lyman .50 cal. At a shop I was told that for round balls I need .490. Is that correct?
And secondly I can't seem to get the ball started.
Can some one walk me thur the steps to load it.
Thanks in advance.
PS I have round patches that are .015 thick and I have
patch lube
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:22 PM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

You should get a short starter that has both a long and short stem for starting bullets or round balls - you probably have one already.
You should also get some special patches for shooting balls, they are made of a ticking and are different than cleaning patches. Can be bought pre-lubed.
0.490 is the correct size of ball.
Make sure your rifle is unprimed.
Let's also start with a clean barrel - no residue in it.
Dump your powder charge.
Center the lubed ball patch on the muzzle.
Center the ball in the patch, push down with your thumb so it stays in place.
Use the short little stem on the ball starter, center it on top of the round ball and give the top of the ball starter a good slam with the palm of your right hand.
The ball will go down into the bore to just below flush with the muzzle.
Switch to the longer stem on the ball starter, center it down the bore onto the round ball and whack the sucker with the palm of your right hand, and continue pushing downward till the ball starter hits the muzzle.
Switch to your ramrod (or better yet, buy a range-rod - much stronger) and push the ball to the charge.
When you encounter the charge give the ramrod two or three smart raps to ensure that it is firmly on the charge. Very important to do this every time.
Remove ramrod (they fly a hell of a long ways...)
Prime the nipple.
Let fly.
That is how we do it and our rifles are reliable and quite accurate. Flinters are another story. They are creations from hell and must be pampered or they will let you down.
Good luck, I buy the appropriate pre-cut, pre-lubed ball patches from T/C and use Hornady round balls. Also check into the relatively new saboted round balls from Hornady, makes shooting sidehammers much easier. Shoot very well in my rifles.

Always swab your bore after each shot to minimize buildup of powder residue, makes loading much easier.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:24 PM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

From memory you are just about right. That patch is going to make it snug loading but good shooting most likely. Lube the patch well, center it on the muzzle, center the ball on the centered patch. You then have to have a short starter which is a stub of brass-- maybe inch long or less. And you have to just pop that handle real hard and it should sorta snap in. Then use the 6 inch side of the starter and rap that in, then go to the ramrod-- if you have a wood rod, be careful or better still- toss it and get synthetic.

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Old 03-12-2005, 05:33 PM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

Thank you for your help. I have done some web reading but
understand it better coming from a rel person who knows.
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Old 03-12-2005, 05:51 PM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

.490 is right size ball, but if still hard to start might drop down to a .12 or .10 patch.

When you shoot it just make sure to go downrange and find the patch and make sure it is thick enough to not get cut by the rifling or burnt through when shot.

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Old 03-12-2005, 06:32 PM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

Excellent advice on the patch too. Forgot to mention that. If it were me and I was concerned I might try to find a 485 ball and keep the thicker patch. But as mentioned-- as long as its not cut or burned through either as you have it or if you go to a thinner patch, you are good to go. More powder gives a better chance of burning through also.

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Old 03-13-2005, 07:34 AM
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Re: muzzle loading question- help

Do you know what twist you have? Some of the newer muzzleloaders have a faster twist barrel they shoot well with sabot and powerbelts. They shoot well in a 1-32 twist or faster barrel, and the round balls shoot well out of 1-45 twist barrels
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