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Unread 12-16-2008, 12:25 AM
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Re: Montana Deer and Elk Hunting

hapycapy: You should take that 7 grand you spend every year and get your mouth sewed shut. Or buy a lifetime supply of soap to wash your mouth out with. This is exactly the lack of disrespect I was talking about. Hunting isn't about how much money have and money is exactly what is ruining it.
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    I think the main issue here is slob hunters. I've been hunting out West, mainly WY since 1993 and I have to say; as others have said, that there are good and bad apples whether they are resident or nonresident. This fall myself and a few buddies hunted in WY. One area we usually hunt had been over run with lazy hunters who were riding their ATV's all over creation. These hunters/riders were both residents and non-residents and seemed to believe they had discovered the best way to slip up on the deer. Another incident involved a buddy who was sitting beside a tree on a hill and had a resident hunter shoulder his rifle and look at him through his scope to see what he was...my buddy took his orange hat and waved it at him and he lowered his rifle. Then we had an outfitter who thought he basically had full hunting rights to the BLM land that joined the private property he had leased. Land that we had been hunting long before he rode in on his high horse.

    And on the issue of public land ie: US Forest Service, BLM, etc.. this is land that belongs to every US citizen. We all have just as much right to hunt as the other guy, regardless the state in which we reside. Part of the Federal Tax dollars we all pay go to such places, therefore we all have a steak in Federal Lands. However, the guy who gets to an area first, deserves to have the respect of other hunters, by them not hunting on top of him. A little respect goes a long way.

    One of the biggest problems today is lack of respect and ethics. It's a problem in our society as a whole. I try my best to respect other hunters, landowners, and obey all game laws. And hope I get the same respect in return.
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    Unread 12-16-2008, 09:24 AM
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    Now a person that thinks that paying $6000 or $7000 for a hunt entitles them to behave badly whille hunting is part of the problem. I hope that is not what I read but it sure sounded like it. Maybe you might cool down enough to write a post that might actually make some sense. But then again if you have enough money you can tell everyone else to get Fu*&(&* and do what you want.

    I didnt say that my $ intitles me to behave badly, I was trying to make a point that not all out of staters are not unethical slobs and pigs like some of you people are making us out to be. Read my post and it said " respect your state your wildlife and its residents"!![/quote]


    It's holier than thou, arrogant, self righteous attitudes like your's that tend to reinforce anit-out-of-state hunter sentiment. So you're a big spender, I'm impressed. Thanks for your devoted service in supporting Montana's economy.
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    Unread 12-16-2008, 09:27 AM
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    hapycapy: You should take that 7 grand you spend every year and get your mouth sewed shut. Or buy a lifetime supply of soap to wash your mouth out with. This is exactly the lack of disrespect I was talking about. Hunting isn't about how much money have and money is exactly what is ruining it.
    Excuse me sir I think it was you people disrespecting all out of state hunters that set me off in the first place.PLEASE read my original post I said " I RESPECT YOUR STATE YOUR WILDLIFE AND ITS RESIDENTS!!!" But you people put all out of state hunters in the same catagory and that is unfair. I deal with the same thing with out of state hunters coming to Ohio to hunt our whitetail, on state land not Ferderal land by the way, but we have ohio idiots just as you have your local idiots.

    And thank you to jimbo for understanding where I am coming from.
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    Unread 12-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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    Hapy has been added to the arrogant out of state hunter list(AKA ignore list),I wish our F&G had one to weed out the pinheads and allow the true hunters to come in,I have no problem with their state of residence,its the attitude they bring with them.Over the last 5 years I have had several runins with these out of state guides and their "clients",these idiots think they own the public land they are allowed to hunt and Im sure some of the guides are telling their "clients" they do after being asked by a few if I had permission to hunt the national forest I was on.The game warden in that area is so tired of dealing with hunter harassment by these morons that he isnt enjoying the job any more.
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    Unread 12-16-2008, 10:22 AM
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    I think the main issue here is slob hunters. I've been hunting out West, mainly WY since 1993 and I have to say; as others have said, that there are good and bad apples whether they are resident or nonresident. This fall myself and a few buddies hunted in WY. One area we usually hunt had been over run with lazy hunters who were riding their ATV's all over creation. These hunters/riders were both residents and non-residents and seemed to believe they had discovered the best way to slip up on the deer. Another incident involved a buddy who was sitting beside a tree on a hill and had a resident hunter shoulder his rifle and look at him through his scope to see what he was...my buddy took his orange hat and waved it at him and he lowered his rifle. Then we had an outfitter who thought he basically had full hunting rights to the BLM land that joined the private property he had leased. Land that we had been hunting long before he rode in on his high horse.

    And on the issue of public land ie: US Forest Service, BLM, etc.. this is land that belongs to every US citizen. We all have just as much right to hunt as the other guy, regardless the state in which we reside. Part of the Federal Tax dollars we all pay go to such places, therefore we all have a steak in Federal Lands. However, the guy who gets to an area first, deserves to have the respect of other hunters, by them not hunting on top of him. A little respect goes a long way.

    One of the biggest problems today is lack of respect and ethics. It's a problem in our society as a whole. I try my best to respect other hunters, landowners, and obey all game laws. And hope I get the same respect in return.

    Well said I agree 100%
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    Unread 12-16-2008, 10:07 PM
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    Hapy: Read my original post. I stated that I had hunted with several educated well spoken and respectful out of state hunters. I also stated that the ratio of good/bad out of staters was getting bad. I didn't say any chicken sh*t loud mouth disrespective crap like you did.
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