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Unread 11-03-2006, 06:40 AM
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Unbelievable! I never new such a place existed [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
I told my boss about this and he said a while back
at redstone colo they would bring the dignataries out from D.C and let them pick off elk as they would parade them in front of them [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img] what $ will do I guess [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]
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Unread 11-07-2006, 04:41 PM
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Just watched Keith's show before reading this and now I'm pissed! [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Thanks to modern technology, I just put a block on all his shows! I knew he hunted alot of the "game ranches" that is really not to my taste, but nothing like this sh*t!!!
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Unread 11-07-2006, 06:48 PM
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i just emailed keith warren and told him what a cock sucker he is and i told him that i am writting letters to his sponsors and the outdoor channel and telling them that he is a con artist.. maybe if enough of us emailed keith warren he would help get that man a real hunt like for free and stop screwing other people..
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Unread 11-07-2006, 07:15 PM
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There was a video posted on this forum with Jimmy Houston in a treestand (looks like he is in open woods at first) and then a whitetailbuck is running back and forth with fences on either side.

They are all con artists except for Tred Barta who has no sponsors and uses wooded arrows.

They are all full of sh__!
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Unread 11-08-2006, 12:08 PM
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i just got emailed back from keith warren's editor.. heres what he wrote..

thank you for your email and your commments. However there's a few
things you need to be aware of.
Keith hunted bear valley in 2002 - the show aired in 2003 before
Donahue's trip . That part of Donahue's story is true. What Donahue
claims about the operation and Keith's knowledge of it is false. The
pens didn't exist when Keith hunted Bear Valley.
Keith returned to Bear Valley after Donahue's hunt. Upon learning that
the operation had changed and that pens existed Keith insisted he be
taken to a larger tract of property to hunt, one that presented an
acceptable challenge.
Look at Bear Valley website (just do a google on Bear Valley
Outfiitters) BVO offer "Free Range" and "Ranch" hunts. Keith
never "Ranch" hunted Bear Valley Except in the case of the Elk and
that was done on 6,000 acres (again if memory serves me correctly a
far cry for the pen Donahue hunted in) - that's why it wasn't "hard
for the cameraman to hide the fences" as claimed by Donahue.

There's never been any denial that a lot of Bear Valley land is high
fence. non-Canadians aren't allowed to hunt Elk except on private
properties (or at least, that was the case the last time this issue
came up). At any rate - Keith conducted one hunt (in 2004( , but was
so dissatisfied with the operation in total that he left, refused to
air the show and pulled the link to BVO off his website. In addition
he pulled any remaining shows associated with Bear Valley, removed the
link from this forum and website to Bear Valley and does not endorse
Bear Valley. Donahue's claims that Keith still supports Bear Valley
are false. Keith responded to Donahue on this forum when Donahue
initially posted here.

Yes, Donahue was removed from Keith's forum, not for the reasons he
professes either He continued to DEMAND that Keith publicly apologize
for somehow misleading hunters into believing that Bear Valley was
fair chase (and frankly, I'm not sure Keith ever said "fair chase") -
by Donahue's own admission he contacted the outfitter and satisfied
his own requirements before going on the hunt.

Yes, he was initially blocked from the forum, then allowed back, after
discussion via email that he would "hold his fire" until he could hear
from Keith about the conditions of Bear Valley. He didn't do so -
contrary to his claim that he waited until Keith's response - he
continued to demand an apology, wanted a show done about Bear Valley
and quiet frankly did every thing but ask to be reimbursed for his

Donahue has been thrown off or disbelieved most of the forums he
attempted to go on (Basspro, Total Sportsman, Maine Outdoors, etc.)
and trash Keith Warren primarily because his story continues to change
based on his desire for fame. When questioned closely by forum members
of those forums he's found lacking in a lot of his claims. His stories
are full of inaccuracies, not to mention the fact that Donahue only
complained AFTER killing all four animals (first it was two, then
three and finally it was all four) and losing his meat to customs
inspectors because he didn't have the proper paperwork.

Keith doesn't need to defend himself against this bs. There's nothing
to defend. What happened at Bear Valley happened after his association
with them.

Someone should ask Donahue, why he stayed. He didn't pay the full
amount up front, no outfitter that I'm aware of demands payment in
full Before the hunt. He paid deposits. THAT (the deposit) is what he
would have lost, but he will tell you he stood to lose the full

Keith turned down an all expenses paid return trip to Bear Valley
because he does not approve and will not condone the operation Bear
Valley has in place at this time.
Demands from Donahue that Keith take the time on air to denounce Bear
Valley are the demands of someone who has no rights or authority to
make such a call. Donahue has had ample opportunity to discuss this
with Outdoor Adventures and has never done so (he has the email
address afterall), he prefers instead to foment his fairy tale on the
internet where gullible hunters will take it and run with it.

He claims his version is true - otherwise he says he would be sued by
BVO and Keith Warren. For what purpose? to satisfy his need for
further exposure. I can see the headlines on his website now. "Little
guy gets destroyed by the Big Famous Hunter". that's exactly what he
would love to have happen. Keith isn't going to waste the time or the
money on someone who has no credability.

Donahue had a choice to make, he could have refused to participate in
the hunt at Bear Valley and move on but he chose to harvest ALL four
animals available and then complain. I question anyone who does
something like this as to what their true motive is. Donahue will tell
you it was because he spent a lot of money and didn't want to lose it.
If that's the driving force behind why he hunts he needs to reevaluate
why he's hunting at all.

Donahue won't tell you but I will, his initial website posting urged
all readers to contact PETA Canada, PETA USA, HSUS and the Sierra Club
in addition to the one or two contacts he now has on his website. They
were removed (I'm assuming by him) after he got hammered on every
forum for posting this. I question whether or not he continues to
provide these organizations with emails sent to him and comments from
some of the forums he's still able to go onto.

If you feel you still need to contact his sponsors by all means do so.
They are all aware of this issue. Afterall it's 4 years old now and
Keith has not and will not go back to Bear Valley for any reason. The
Outdoor Channel is also aware of this and of Keith's decision to drop
all affiliation with Bear Valley because of the change in their
Thank you again for your email and I hope this answers some of your
concerns, if not feel free to respond at any time.
Roger Bales
Outdoor Adventures

seems like keith didnt know either that this was happening and no longer does any business with bvo..
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Unread 11-08-2006, 01:46 PM
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I've seen Donahue's story over and over and one area of his story that blows holes in his whole "victim" act is that it was a scheduled 6-day hunt! Now by his own claim he has hunted a long time so you would think that any experienced hunter would question a "fair chase" hunt for Elk, Whitetail, Buffalo, and Bear that would only take 6 days???? I know people that take longer than that just for an Elk. I'm calling BS on his whole "victim" story.

PS. Great site by the way, anyone shoot a 270 wby mag at caribou?
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Unread 11-09-2006, 11:19 AM
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Thank you nolo263 this looks like I've been had. My biggest problem was he stated that his money was taken even after he directly asked them about the canned hunt. I do think If it were me I would not have shot anything and tried another direction to get my money returned. I don't believe in canned hunts because I don't consider this hunting. I have never been guided and I have never hunted a ranch so I am not completely sure how it all works. If you pay for a canned hunt then so-be-it. I have though about this for awhile and read the other post and I won't participate in a canned hunt, but I do think if that is what you want and there is a provider then it is fine. If they lied to him on the spot and the money was taken for something that was not given that is wrong and IF this did happen he has a right to be made only if he didn't shoot the animals. The letter would be correct, I feel I am a good hunter and I have a pretty solid knowledge of animal behaviorand it usually takes 2days to get the deer I am after four in 6 day sounds pretty unreal. Thanks again and I won't be so quick to jump next time,this just makes me look like a dummy.

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