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Old 07-17-2013, 11:21 AM
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Making decision on new gun

I am getting a new toy later this week and I am torn on the caliber to stick with. Here are my choices and my thoughts looking for any input or info from others to help:

300WSM:
Very comfortable with this caliber easy to load and make shoot and very reasonable barrel life

7SAUM:
Not the easiest caliber to load for people say (guessing because throats always moving. Bad barrel life but awesome ballistics

7WSM:
I am reasonably comfortable with this caliber as well really good ballistics but suffers from bad barrel life too

Now I shoot a lot and this gun will be mainly shot at range and ground hogs and make the occational trip to a long range match, But I want to take it for whitetail too if I get a chance to hunt the spot I was promised I will have 1500 yards.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:25 AM
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Re: Making decision on new gun

It appears you want a 7mm rifle.

If you aren't worried about barrel life, but want incredible ballistics go with the 7mm STW. And it should be able to handle whitetail sized game @ 1,500 yards with the right projectile (Berger 168 or 180 VLD).

If you want good barrel life, and 7mm RemMag ballistics, check into the .280 Ackley Improved.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:31 AM
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Re: Making decision on new gun

I am not really sure. I know the SAUM and the WSM can push the 180's 3100+ as they will be 30" barrels and that is ballistically pretty freaking awesome but I don't know how I feel with putting a couple barrels on in one year. while the 300WSM I can get away with one barrel for the whole year and push 190's at 3200, but it isn't as high of a B.C. kind of a coin flip at the moment.
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:40 AM
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Re: Making decision on new gun

The 7mmSTW can last 1,500-2,000+ rounds.

The .280 AI can last over 2,500 rounds.
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Old 07-17-2013, 12:11 PM
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The 7mmSTW can last 1,500-2,000+ rounds.

The .280 AI can last over 2,500 rounds.

to maintain Benchrest accuracy I was always told on the "big 7's" under 1000 rounds and on a .280AI around 1200-1500 at best. the only 7 that I have a lot of exsperience with is the .284 and I was seeing accuracy drop off at just over 1200 rounds.
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Re: Making decision on new gun

I have about 800 rds through my 7 SAUM and it's still as accurate as ever. I don't see how the 300 WSM could push the 190's to 3200 fps, even with a 30" barrel, or have a noticably longer barrel life over the SAUM. My 7 SAUM is easy to load for using the 180 Hybrids, the hardest part is finding componets. IMO, if you are looking for a 1500 yd deer rifle than go with something like the 284/300 Norma Imp with a bullet over 180 gr or 300 Norma Imp with something over 220 gr. Or even the 7 LRM with a bullet like the 195 gr Hybrid. Just my thoughts.
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I have about 800 rds through my 7 SAUM and it's still as accurate as ever. I don't see how the 300 WSM could push the 190's to 3200 fps, even with a 30" barrel, or have a noticably longer barrel life over the SAUM. My 7 SAUM is easy to load for using the 180 Hybrids, the hardest part is finding componets. IMO, if you are looking for a 1500 yd deer rifle than go with something like the 284/300 Norma Imp with a bullet over 180 gr or 300 Norma Imp with something over 220 gr. Or even the 7 LRM with a bullet like the 195 gr Hybrid. Just my thoughts.
I am not just looking at it as a 1500 yard deer gun that was one possible application I have other guns for that so it isn't the be all end all for this one. I am super intregued by the SAUM but my friends when he pushes it hard is only getting 800-900 rounds before it is going south. Even when pushing the 300WSM hard I have been getting around 1500-2000 of them. at equal speeds the SAUM definatly has the edge on B.C. no doubt.
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