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Old 12-07-2012, 01:20 AM
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Re: Lowering "RECOIL" for hunting & Shooting

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Thanks for your reply, the 110BA is a heavy gun, but will a after market muzzle brake do better than the factory tuned one that comes with it? Please let me know as well as aprox. price for a aftermarket one installed... Also what would you recommend for recoil-reducer pads for the 110BA?? Or even a new recoil reducing stock?? Please let me know asap. Thanks again...
Their factory brakes are crap. Replace it with one of Kirby's or any one of our other sponsors here who make them. They will all do the job very well for you.

There are only two butt pads worth spending money on, one is the Simms and the other is the Pachmayer Decelerator. I have both, love them both. On my unbraked 300 win mags the Simms makes the recoil negligible and I have the pachmayer on my 300 Rum with the same results.
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Thanks Dr. Vette, But, I was told that the regular Burris elem has to be a "full" 12X for the rangefinder and compisator to work, I'm not just buying this gun/scope for this hunt only... I need a gun for "Any" hunt anywhere here in North-America
That is correct! The new one has lots of upgrades and works at all magnification.


However, you might want to check with the proper authority (i.e., the game warden that will enforce it, etc...) if it is legal to use this scope where you are going to hunt. In some states, it is illegal for big game but OK for varmints.

Good luck and happy safe hunting/shooting.
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That is correct! The new one has lots of upgrades and works at all magnification.

However, you might want to check with the proper authority (i.e., the game warden that will enforce it, etc...) if it is legal to use this scope where you are going to hunt. In some states, it is illegal for big game but OK for varmints.

Good luck and happy safe hunting/shooting.
In addition, he might want to wait a month until the SHOT show to see if the improvements to the III version show up on a less expensive model.
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Old 12-07-2012, 02:29 PM
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Re: Lowering "RECOIL" for hunting & Shooting

I agree on getting an aftermarket brake. I only charge my customers around $60 - $80 to thread a muzzle for a brake. Im working on a rifle right now for a customer that i installed a jewell trigger and brake on a .30-378 mag custom rifle, which was painful to shoot before, now it's a pussycat, however muzzle blast sounds and feels like a half stick of dynamite going off lol. Recoil was reduced to feel about like a stout 30-06 load, or 2.75" 12 ga. Buckshot load, completely manageable.

Like already said, heavy rifles kick less.... i would buy a Rem 700 SPS Varmint (26" heavy barrel with cheap plastic non bedded stock) in .300 WM, install an aftermarket brake, trigger, and a Bell & Carlson A5 tactical style stock, which is heavy but not too heavy, has full length aluminum bedding block, and cheekrest and vertical foregrip.... then youll have a long range tack driver... or if u can afford it, an H-S Precision or McMillian stock.
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Old 12-08-2012, 03:14 AM
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Re: Lowering "RECOIL" for hunting & Shooting

For $2500+ you are encroaching in custom territory.

300wm

-- Weight to be 16lbs minus scope
-- Good muzzle brake
-- MCS-GAT stock from Manners. Ask for 5 lb. "sniper fill". We want the weight... The thumbhole does help with recoil management.
-- Coming up with an action in probably Rem 700 should be easy enough.
-- #7 barrel contour @ about 26" before muzzle brake. Do Not Flute...we want the weight.
-- Possibly a nice bi-pod? Only if you plan to shoot prone of course.
-- Rifle Slings - Tactical Intervention Specialists Sniper Rifle this guy makes seriously good slings. When I say good I mean comfortable, durable, and *useful*. Far too often the sling is an afterthought, but if used with some training it is a nice tool.

Plenty of gents here who could smith something like this up for you. At the end of the project you have a rifle that will For SURE hammer them in tight. It should also fit you well as the MCS-GAT stock comes with a spacer system to allow you to modify Length Of Pull to suit you. LOP makes a serious difference, it is a detail that needs to be addressed up front. With your size you will probably be somewhere between 13 7/8" and 14 1/8". I am 6'1" and I went with 14 1/4" but my rifle is for primarily prone shooting and I vehemently hate "scope kiss". My next stock will be 14" dead on, but it will also be for General Purpose shooting.

Have a good one,
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Re: Lowering "RECOIL" for hunting & Shooting

What I got from your first post is you want a low recoiling accurate 500 yard elk rifle that you can basically drive around with. Maybe the guide said 500 yards because he thinks thats as close as you will be able to drive up to one??? For that I would use a heavy, braked rifle in any of the cartridges listed. But at 500 yards I wouldn't hesitate to use a 30-06 with a good bullet, maybe even a .308 with the right bullet. If the .300 mag can be considered a 800 or 1000 yard elk rifle then a 30-06 or even a .308 can be considered a 500 yarder...especially if recoil is the big concern.
But you also want a single do all rifle. You keep getting responses about adding weight. I do agree that, besides shooting a lower level cartridge and adding a brake, adding weight is one of the best ways to reduce recoil. However, I think a man in your physical condition (no matter how big) should think of weight as a hindrance. I don't mean for a rifle you will drive around with and carry very little but from the do it all rifle. What happens if you do go on that goat/sheep hunt or have to venture any distance from a vehicle (especially on restrictive/severely restrictive terrain)? I think a medium/sporter weight rifle with a good brake and recoil pad chambered in a decent cartridge of your choice (.280, 30-06, whatever...) would be your best bet. You can even load them up or down as much as you can tolerate.
I think you are going about it right by wanting to shoot different rifle/cartridge combos.
Good luck to you; on you rifle decision, your hunt and your health.
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Re: Lowering "RECOIL" for hunting & Shooting

To me reading your post you are worried about the range time inflicting damage to your shoulder with the pin and your back. What I would do is get a lead sled or something similar to use at the range. Then you just need a rifle you can handle the recoil of twice. Once for the one shot kill. And once for a follow up shot if needed. You can put the break on it and other customizing to reduce the recoil for field use. I thought they had something you put in the stock from the butt that has lead and a spring to work as a reducer but the gunsmiths would know more about it than I do.
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