Looking for Opinons! good and bad

[4xforfun]

Originally Posted by KidWalleye

I live in Eastern MT, little town by the name of Glasgow. anyone around these parts?

I am about 450 miles east of you in ND 5 miles from canada, 30 miles from MN. I have 3 different smiths that I work with....One in La Moure, ND, one in Central MN, and Clay Spencer out in VA.

[liltank]

Isn't Kirby in MT?

[WildRose]

If he's still there, there was a very good gunsmith in Timberlake SD years ago who did great work in a small shop on the farm.

Saw quite a bit of his work he'd done for a couple of friends in that area.

You could call the chamber of commerce there and ask if he's still around. His shop was about ten miles out of town or so off of the highway to Mobridge.

[BountyHunter]

Originally Posted by KidWalleye

ok like i said i am very new to this world!! please explain if you can or have time.



ok i have done some research on Fire lapping. from what i have read it increases accuracy in the short run but shortens the life of the barrel in the long run.

I am assuming you are refering to this being a bad thing because of the shortened life of the barrel. i guess i am wondering how much this shortens it? is it from 10,000 rounds to 5,000, 5,000-2,000, 1000-500?


thank you

Gary

Gary,

1. NO 30-378 has a barrel life of 10,000 rds, or any other centerfire caliber for that fact. Maybe 1200 if your lucky. However, I would bet on 800 or so.

2. Fire lapping is absolutely not needed for any match grade barrel to include Shilen. They are hand lapped before they leave the mftr.

3. Custom chamber normally means expensive custom dies. Did not see that on the list.

IMO is see a lot of expensive BS on that list.

FIND ANOTHER SMITH if he is telling you a Shilen needs to firelapped.


If you are looking for that class range and ballistics buy the new savage 338 Lapuas for under $1500 ready to go.

You need some trigger time shooting at distances. A 30-378 is not a cheap learning tool. You will learn a lot more for a lot less money with the savageand then you can sort the BS from reality. Plus it will out shoot you for the first 2 years in all probability

Model 110 HSC MSRP is $1549

[WesB]

Call Chad at Long Rifles @ 605-490-2561. You won't find a better gunsmith imho
LongRifles, Inc.
Wes

[WildRose]

Originally Posted by BountyHunter

Gary,

1. NO 30-378 has a barrel life of 10,000 rds, or any other centerfire caliber for that fact. Maybe 1200 if your lucky. However, I would bet on 800 or so.

2. Fire lapping is absolutely not needed for any match grade barrel to include Shilen. They are hand lapped before they leave the mftr.

3. Custom chamber normally means expensive custom dies. Did not see that on the list.

IMO is see a lot of expensive BS on that list.

FIND ANOTHER SMITH if he is telling you a Shilen needs to firelapped.


If you are looking for that class range and ballistics buy the new savage 338 Lapuas for under $1500 ready to go.

You need some trigger time shooting at distances. A 30-378 is not a cheap learning tool. You will learn a lot more for a lot less money with the savageand then you can sort the BS from reality. Plus it will out shoot you for the first 2 years in all probability

Model 110 HSC MSRP is $1549

Good point.

For someone needing lots of trigger time a much better option would be to start with a nice .260 or .308 win in a bolt gun.

The savings in ammo alone would pay for it in a year.

[AJ Peacock]

Kirby Allen is as good as it gets w/re to long range smiths. He's in Fort Shaw.

Check out his website at Home Page

I have one of his MONSTERS, words cannot describe them.

I agree with the other guys, get something less than the 30-378 if you haven't shot at long distance before. A 300WSM would be a GREAT learning tool.

Hope this helps,
AJ