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Old 09-05-2005, 06:47 PM
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Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

I'm a good shot with the standard M-16A2 service rifle, getting 8 out of 10 at the 500yd line. Looking at purchasing a Savage 12BVSS 26" in 300WSM. Are there any others I should look at for the price in the $5-600 dollar range. What optics would compliment this well for $2-300? Looking to fire between 8-1000 yards. Great board by the way been reading it for about 2 months now. [img]/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 09-05-2005, 07:11 PM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

You are looking at the right rifle. If you get a good factory tube you might have a .25 inch inch gun. As far as optics for 300 dollar, I think you be served best by a 6-24 sightron SII target scope. They have as good of glass as leupold and they track really good. They also have plenty of internal adjustiment. I think they are the most bang for the buck in optics right now. savages have plenty of aftermarket parts if you want to dress it up. Good luck you are on the right track
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Old 09-06-2005, 11:23 AM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

The savage is probably your best choice. 2-300 dollers for a scope, the Bushnell 3200 10x40 is good($160-240), Sightron(I havent used them but most people think there ok, though they have 1/8min adjustments I believe), SWFA Super Sniper's all fixed powers, 10/16/20x($299-399), however in that price range ($249 at www.opticzone.com) the Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x40SF is outstanding. I've used all of them above (except the Sightron) and the Nikon is by far the best.
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Old 09-06-2005, 02:00 PM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

OK, thank you all for you input. Next question, would I be better off going with the .300WM for long action sake. Or, run with the .300WSM? Eventually I'd like to work up to a 338 Lapua or such. I know the action will limit me if I go the short route, or will it take me some time to get used to my new stick. Like I said before not looking at much more then 1200-1500 yards.
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Old 09-06-2005, 08:47 PM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

Personaly I would go with the 300win. Nothing wrong with the WSM, I've just shot the crap out of the 300win and think its about as perfect a medium range round can get. You can buy factory mach ammo for it, plus the slight velocity gain will help with hevier bullets if you really get past 1,000yds. If you want a Lapua, you'll have to go with a LA anyways. Now having said that the WSM's I have seen shot, did very well, and as long as you stay with 190gr bullets or less, you really dont lose any velocity over its big brother.

From having owned and shot most systems out there I believe if someone can handle the recoil about the best bet for an all around 0-900+yds gun for somebody starting out or that doesnt want to go custom, is a Savage 110FP in 300winchester. Haveing set up quite a few for buddies, its been my expierence, after makeing sure that the stock doesnt touch the barrel, with a good scope they'll AVERAGE 3/4 to 1 MOA at 400yds with Federal or Blackhills 190grSMK match ammo, and under 3/4 minutes with handloaded Amax's. The one I have now averages 2 1/2 to 3in at 400 and 4-5 inches at 600 with Amax's.
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Old 09-07-2005, 04:56 AM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

Final thoughts, the Savage Mod 12BVSS(preferred over 110fp)in .300wsm will do more then a good job out to 1000 and maybe a bit more with pratice? Should I feel the need to upgrade I guess I will just have to buy another rifle. Barrel life will be greater then the big brother and ammo is cheaper. Local dealer is willing to part with one for $570(new) and some change. Can someone explain the process of converting a 300WM into a Lapau? Also would you post major differences on cartridges and any side by side pics you may have.
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Old 09-07-2005, 07:14 AM
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Re: Long time shooter, new to med-long range.

Hi Echo,
I have a Win Stealth in 300WSM (a calibre option not available in your country) which shoots 1/2 moa all day with handloads. I think it is an excellent choice of calibre.

It will easilly do the business out to 1000+yds, even though it has slightly less capacity than the WinMag.
I prefer this case over the 300 WinMag for its more efficient short design and absence of a belt, using 185grn Lapua Scenars i can just reach over the 3000fps mark.

Unfortunately your savage is built on a short action and cannot be converted to 338 Lapua because it is a much longer cartridge.
If a 338 is what you will be hankering for in the future i would reccomend one of the 300RUM based 338 wildcats which could be built on any Remington UltraMag action or magnum action with feed rail work.
Brass is also much easier to obtain and much cheaper.

Ian

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