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Old 01-23-2011, 01:27 AM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

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Bigngreen has had the same experiences I have. The better I get at long range shots the more picky I become in the game I will shoot.
Some people take the shot just because it's 500 or 800 or whatever your magic number of yards is. I personally will only shoot if the animal is of the quality I am after and the shot is good.
I sat and watched a really nice Blacktail that was a real good 3x3 for almost an hour bedded under a manzanita bush. He was pretty incredible to watch but I was after a 4x4.
Antelope hunting will definitely improve once you can shoot over 400 yards. They can spot you really easy.
When you see that buck or whatever of a lifetime it won't matter how far away he is, you will be able to calculate everything you need to make the shot. The confidence to make the shot will help you out a lot.
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"I personally will only shoot if the animal is of the quality I am after and the shot is good."

Makes damn good sense! I've been hunting whitetails/mulie now going on 61 years and my selection of game has grown quite considerably over these many years. If I'm slim on meat....we let the youngsters shoot a legal doe!
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Old 01-23-2011, 01:27 AM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

Most of my Western big game success has been from being able to reach out past 350 yards. Some successes I know I could have gotton closer I was just lazy and I like to shoot. Some other trophies of mine I would have never collected without the ability to reach out.
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Old 01-23-2011, 08:40 AM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

have no idea about the west, but this I've found to be true here in the east, and makes sense that it would hold true anywhere
The more real estate you can see, will mean more game spotted, however, there is alot more chance of not getting a shot off the farther the distance it is.
I've not documented it but it seems to me that 6 out of 10 animals you see that you would like to harvest never present the shot for various reasons
you lose them somewhere between the binocs, rf, and the rifle, in cover its like the ground just swallows them, some just walk out of sight before you get set up for the shot, and nothing is more frustrating than trying to set up on rutting whitetails.
Now at normal ranges the percentage of game that doesn't offer a shot is much lower, the shot is almost instaneous with locating/judgeing the game.
This is whitetail hunting here in the east, nothing harder than staying on a buck in the timber at 700 yards long enough to shoot. I once spent 4.5 hours trying to get a shot at the best 8 point out of a group of 5 running a doe at 500.
took the slack out of the trigger on the wrong buck 3 different times, to say the least it was a mite unraveling.
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Old 01-23-2011, 09:22 AM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

I agree with several of the answers. Long range hunting for the sake of long range hunting means less shots taken and less animals killed. If you just want to kill an animal get a iron sight 30-30 and get in the brush. if you do not know enough about hunting to successfully kill deer at close range in Arkansas then you do not know enough to kill elk at long range. Reading habitat, water availability and likely routes at long range through binoculars and knowing where to look for the animals is a skill developed at close range and honed at long range. So if you don't know animal behavior and habitat, long range equipment is going to be of no help.

Moderate range skill, at say 300-500 yard, is a great asset and you can execute fairly rapidly. At those ranges your optics can be average cost and quality.

Once you go to 800 yards and beyond your optical equipment will begin to cost about $3000 - $5000. You can't hit what you can't see and as was express by RR you have to track the legal or desired animal with your optics.
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Old 01-23-2011, 02:00 PM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

Ihave grown up in NWMT. So my typical terrain is timbered mountains,but you have smaller canyons, and finger ridges. The big country I hunt is to far to canyon hunt, hard to even get to game same day. But there are slide chutes and above timberline, that with shooting form fingers has helped me harvest the game. But in same token I have had luck in the thick stuff on way off mountain, I have jumped some nice bucks in thick and never shot because I was not sure if it was trophy I wanted.With the terrain LRH IS another tool for the hunter to use, just as is archery. You have to take the time to learn how to use the tools.LRH has helped me have more success.
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Old 01-23-2011, 04:28 PM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

I'm still waiting for that great long range shot but so far have only killed one bull at 543 yds. Long range shooting did help in that shot since I was busted and it was all I had.

Most if not all of my hunting is on public land and I haven't found the animals as cooperative as I would like. Hunting pressure and other conditions have seemed to keep the animals brushed up most of the time and haven't presented that type of shot. This year I shot a buck at 123, a bull at 75, and a cow at 130. All of these hunts required getting off the beaten path and all were brushed up. One thing though is that all of the practice makes these types of shots easy one shot kills.
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Old 01-23-2011, 10:19 PM
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Re: Long range capability = shooting oppurtunities and success?

Becoming a competent shot at long range will definately boost your proficiency at medium and closer range. Then when the long range opportunity presents itself, you'll be much better able to assess whether it's a shot you're comfortable with.

As others have stated, long range hunting for the sake of long range may limit the number of shots you actually take.

That's been my experience anyways.
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