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Unread 10-24-2003, 03:08 PM
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Long range cal

I am currently hunting with a 52 LB 338 yogi and a 7 LB 7mm mag. I feel comfortable shooting the 338 to 2500 yards and the 7mm to 500 yards I need something in between. I am looking for opinions on a case and caliber for long range hunting (carry I would be hunting Deer and Elk out to 1500 yards off a bipod. I need a bullet that we can see the hits for a spotter shot. But not recoil so much (with a brake) that I cant see the hits my self. I was thinking around 10 to 12 LBS for scope and rifle.
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    Unread 10-24-2003, 04:00 PM
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    CM,

    It sounds like you're wanting something close to what I've been pondering too. The one I'm fixin to build is pretty much the same as your 338 Yogi, but I'm thinking under 14lbs, 12 would be better. I think I've settled on a 32" barrel for this one here, as it'll do everything I need it too and then some. I don't want to worry about having to pack it around if I must, but I want it heavier than I could make it be. Main reason is barrel stiffness and heat disapation when practicing. I think I've settled on the McMillan A5 stock and I'll use a Holland Quick discharge brake like the one my brother uses on his 338/378wby, it's very effective.

    If you like how the Yogi shoots, I'd stick with the same awesome cartridge... I'm sure you could see the advantages are many by doing so too. Why not?
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    Unread 10-24-2003, 10:18 PM
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    Re: Long range cal

    Crow mag,I think one of the finest long range rounds comes from your country in the 7mm Boo Boo.The strength of the RWS "68" case coupled with either the 176 GTB or the 180 JLK all available from Dave Tooley .We have experimented with a 7mm wildcat with very little difference to Daves(slightly longer neck and a different shoulder angle),Very impressive...JR..Jeff Rogers
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    Unread 10-25-2003, 07:18 AM
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    Re: Long range cal

    I have pondered this myself...

    to kill Elk at that range you need over 1000 lbs of energy...hard to get that..without going to 338 cal. In a carry gun you're looking at at least a Sendero type stock.. in not an A2, 3, 4, 5 McMillan.... that adds some weight but for a long poke from a bi-pod you need weight...

    Myself personally am considering a 300 RUM shooting 240's at 2900.. that gives you 1200 ft.lb.s at 1500 yards.. but that is marginal for Elk.. at that distance.. I have limited myself to 1000-1200 tards for Elk...
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    Unread 10-25-2003, 08:25 AM
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    Jeff Rogers
    Tooley has a 7 Tooley and a 300 Tooley that are based on the 8x68 RWS case in his hunting series I will call him for his advise on this one to.

    WyoWisper
    With the 300 Rum and the 240 can you see your own hits on rocks or dirt patches. I will be using a Rem 40 X action for this project with the Kevlar stock and a 30 inch barrel.

    Brent
    I would go with the 338 Yogi but think it would be hard to get back on target with a light gun to see the hits for a spotter shot. I have seen some of the guys at the 1 mile shoots shoot a 17 Lb gun in 300 Yogi and 338 Yogi with brakes on them and they do kick quite a bit. The 300 Yogi or 300 wolf may be the one for the job [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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    The 240 gr bullets makes a BIG splash!!! Yeah, you can see it... [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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    Unread 10-25-2003, 01:38 PM
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    CM,

    I hear ya, moving off the target might be an issue depending on how light you go nd/or what brake design you use. I don't use the sighter round method so it's not an issue for me tho. I've said this before, but my brother had a girlfriend about 18 and 100 lbs wet maybe, she shot his 338/378 9 times at 300, 600, and 900 yards one day we were out. This little young gal hit every rock she shot at too, when she started throwing rounds at a baseball bat size stick laying in the sand and hitting right beside it the last few shots, I was impressed to say the least!

    I'm not really sure if the Holland brake controls muzzle flip better than some of the others but there are no vents in the bottom to blow dirt up in your face, just on the sides and on top, it might also be helping to keep the muzzle down better??? It definitely is efficient!!

    Now a 7 or a 30 would obviously help keep your eye fixed on the target even better. Good luck with it. What bbl length are you going with?
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