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Unread 05-22-2011, 09:02 AM
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Long range bullets for grizzly

Hey guys I have an Alaska hunt coming up in aug and on that hunt I will be hunting grizzly then sheep. I am bringing my 300 RUM and wanted to see your thoughts on using the Berger 210 on the grizzly? I use them and a maxs in 208 gn for everything and prob prefer the amax but I don't think I would use it on more damgerous game even though I would use it for anything else. Because of the sheep hunt I want to be able to have a load and bullet that can reach out like I can with other guns of mine and shoot 6-700 plus but need something that can also get it done in close. I don't like having two loads out of one gun as I have heard too many times about shooting different loads affecting the rounds that follow and since I will be in the middle of nowhere a real thorough cleaning between may not be possible. Any thoughts or other recommendations? I know the usual suspects for the bear but TB bear claw tax etc but don't think at they have the long range abilities I will want for the sheep.
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

    Been on many Sheep, Moose and Grizzly hunts with the 300 RUM. Forget the idea of taking a Grizz at long range, especially with the Berger or the A-Max. The Sheep will be your longest shot. The Berger or the A-Max will work fine for the Sheep, but why complicate matters. When I was shooting the RUM, I found an extremely accurate load with the 200 gr AB, and that is what was in the magazine when I was in the Alaskan bush. Most of the time you will run across the Grizz when you are sheep or moose hunting.
    If your particular rifle does not like the 200 AB, then try the 180 AB, and don't look back.
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    Unread 05-22-2011, 10:59 AM
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

    Why even consider ruining your hunt with a marginal target bullet. This is an expensive hunt you are talking about. Any guide worth his salt that I am aware of in over 30 years of Alaska hunting will not let you use a target bullet on grizzly and even frown on hunting anything with them. I have guided for thirty years and would not carry you hunting for grizzly with those bullets. Your guide is responsible for retrieving your bear and he does not care for inexperienced hunters putting him in danger.

    When choosing a hunting bullet the first thing you consider is a quality premium hunting bullet that will do the job in all circumstances. Second and never first is a respectable BC for that hunting bullet. Unfortunately on these forums I see where most are just looking at BC's and forgetting about killing the animal. They are just looking to hit it and take there chances. That is not the proper thought process. Get a 200 grain Nosler Accubond, Barnes ttsx swift scirroco, etc. You will have no problem with those bullets killing game at the 600-700 yards you described or out to over 1000 if you are good enough. But don't shoot grizzlies that far. If you want to shoot caribou, deer and smaller with the target bullets it is possible but don't go bigger than that unless you get a properly constructed hunting bullet.

    The target bullets could work on sheep. The problem is many times they are in grizzly country and you need a bullet for that. Always hunt with the bullet best suited for the most difficult game you plan on encountering. Forget trying to grab those high BC's and just get a bullet that will kill stuff in all circumstances. One that will not blow apart up close or on tough muscle or bone and gives you controled expansion at all ranges.
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

    Dont take two loads, take one. and make sure it is a bullet solid enough for your toughest game. swift scirrocco's in 180grn have a good b.c and are premium hunting bullets. I really like the barnes TTSX, and is what i use in my .338 RUM. Accubonds are supposed to be good, but I have little experience with them. The only other one that I think would fit the bill is something from GS Custom bullets, but they are too pricey for my blood. AMAX and Bergers are a no-no in grizz country. hope you have a good hunt! fill us in when you get back.
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    Unread 05-23-2011, 07:20 AM
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

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    Why even consider ruining your hunt with a marginal target bullet. This is an expensive hunt you are talking about. Any guide worth his salt that I am aware of in over 30 years of Alaska hunting will not let you use a target bullet on grizzly and even frown on hunting anything with them. I have guided for thirty years and would not carry you hunting for grizzly with those bullets. Your guide is responsible for retrieving your bear and he does not care for inexperienced hunters putting him in danger.

    When choosing a hunting bullet the first thing you consider is a quality premium hunting bullet that will do the job in all circumstances. Second and never first is a respectable BC for that hunting bullet. Unfortunately on these forums I see where most are just looking at BC's and forgetting about killing the animal. They are just looking to hit it and take there chances. That is not the proper thought process. Get a 200 grain Nosler Accubond, Barnes ttsx swift scirroco, etc. You will have no problem with those bullets killing game at the 600-700 yards you described or out to over 1000 if you are good enough. But don't shoot grizzlies that far. If you want to shoot caribou, deer and smaller with the target bullets it is possible but don't go bigger than that unless you get a properly constructed hunting bullet.

    The target bullets could work on sheep. The problem is many times they are in grizzly country and you need a bullet for that. Always hunt with the bullet best suited for the most difficult game you plan on encountering. Forget trying to grab those high BC's and just get a bullet that will kill stuff in all circumstances. One that will not blow apart up close or on tough muscle or bone and gives you controled expansion at all ranges.
    +1 on what LTLR said above. He is 110% right on. If you guide is of any quality, he/she will not even let you attempt a long range shot on a grizzly.
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

    LTLR hit it on the head. Just say no to the berger. The 200 accubond would be the only thing with a high bc that comes close to a bear bullet.
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    Unread 05-23-2011, 09:16 PM
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    Re: Long range bullets for grizzly

    Thanks guys to clarify I have no intention of doing the bear long range, I feel dangerous game here and africa are close range animals for a variety of reasons. I just wasn't sure if it would hold together will check out the ab and go from there thanks
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