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Unread 01-09-2010, 12:07 AM
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Long range with black powder

Just wondering if any one took long shots with a black powder and what would be a long shot for a black powder 300,400,500????? I'm thinking of getting one and would like to try some long shots.

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    Unread 01-09-2010, 01:05 AM
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    Re: Long range with black powder

    Some of the high $$$ custom ones claim 1 moa at 500 yards if there is any truth to that that's impressive
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    Re: Long range with black powder

    If you are talking about black powder cartridge rifles, yes they are very accurate.

    I shoot BPCR silohette in the summer. The sharps, hiwalls and rollingblocks are very accurate rifles. the rams are at 547 and are usually fairly easy to hit. We have a ram hanging at 647 up in the woods on a hillside and go shoot it quite a bit. if you are a decent shooter it is fairly easy to hit it time after time. I have hit a 2x3 target at 925. so yes blackpowder is accurate. Read, shooting old buffalo rifles by Mike Venturino if you are interested in these type of rifles. Mike is an authority on these rifles and is also a very nice gentleman and a tough fellow to beat in the matches.
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    Re: Long range with black powder

    If you are talking about the inlines, I'm pretty sure that you can consistently hit 500 yards with the right sabot, bullet and powder combination.

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    Re: Long range with black powder

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    Just wondering if any one took long shots with a black powder and what would be a long shot for a black powder 300,400,500????? I'm thinking of getting one and would like to try some long shots.
    I have not tried distances past 250yards with the muzzle loaders because of accuracy.

    The sabots did not improve the longer range accuracy in fact they lost accuracy in my rifles
    past 200 yards.

    I did find that the heaviest bullets (500 to 600grs did help) but the velocity was down and
    trajectory was up.

    So I tried the cartrige black powder rifles in the sharps and high wall and found great accuracy
    and now that most states allow the pre 1900 designs that is my preference.

    I shoot 45/110s and 45/120s and accuracy at 600yards is acceptable and with the new
    black powder substitutes it should extend this to 800+ yards.( I limit my self to 1 and 1/2
    MOA minimum with the black powder rifles for hunting).

    Also I have found that some of the new jacketed bullets work great in the old smoke poles.

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    Re: Long range with black powder

    Haven't you guys ever heard of Billy Dixon? Billy Dixon knocked an Indian off his horse at a distance later surveyed to be 1,538 yards at Adobe Walls in 1874. He was using a 45-90. Hear is a link to some modern testing with black powder sharps.


    http://members.tripod.com/~powderburns/sharps.html
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    Re: Long range with black powder

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    Haven't you guys ever heard of Billy Dixon? Billy Dixon knocked an Indian off his horse at a distance later surveyed to be 1,538 yards at Adobe Walls in 1874. He was using a 45-90. Hear is a link to some modern testing with black powder sharps.


    http://members.tripod.com/~powderburns/sharps.html

    That was a sharps or a rolling block cartrige rifle and I think the original poster was
    talking about a muzzleloader.

    I agree that the black powder cartrige rifles were much more accurate because they
    were breach loaders and the bullet engraves on the way out instead of on the way in
    as in a muzzleloader. that was the principle behind the Mini ball (It expanded on
    firing engraving on it's way out like modern rifles).

    And I'll bet if you could ask Billy Dixon how he made that shot he would tell you it was
    80 % luck and 20 % skill.

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