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Old 11-25-2011, 01:36 AM
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Well in your last post you stated that you had the parallax adjusted correctly with the 50 and the 100 yard shots and from what you are saying, they shot well. Now on the 200 yd shots, you say that you had the parallax adjusted to infinity which in my opinion is not the adjustment setting that you want. You want the adjustment for 200 yds. And on the 300 yard shots, you didn't adjust the parallax at all and it shot poorly so you need to adjust the parallax for 300 yds on that one. I am just going off what I am reading.

And for goodness sake! You are not shooting out to 1000 yds so take it off of 24 power! Try a lower power on the scope and that might help as well as adjusting the parallax.

If nothing else that you are trying works, then try switching out scopes to see if that is the problem.
The other thing. If I wasn't adjusting my parellax correctly, shouldn't I have at least had consistant groups whether they were high, low, left or right, shouldn't have have been together? I understand what your saying. My shots would possible not be where they should have been, but as long as I didn't adjust the parellax between those 3 shots, I would think they should at least be tight groups. Thanks for the help again.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:40 AM
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They also mentioned that whether I had the scope set on 6 power or 24 power, it made no difference on POI as well.
It isn't supposed to make a difference in POI that is true IF there scope is working properly. If there is a problem you can see varying POI's. I have seen it many times.

I would personally get rid of the strapped down led sled. Not saying it isn't working but I cant personally envision how you can get any consistency on how that sled moves during recoil with straps. They would have to slip and stretch the same each time. That sounds suspect to me. Repeatability is critical.
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:42 AM
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The other thing. If I wasn't adjusting my parellax correctly, shouldn't I have at least had consistant groups whether they were high, low, left or right, shouldn't have have been together? I understand what your saying. My shots would possible not be where they should have been, but as long as I didn't adjust the parellax between those 3 shots, I would think they should at least be tight groups. Thanks for the help again.
True, if you are holding your head in the exact same place each time.

So the bullet holes are all round and not oblong at all correct? And you are shooting in a no wind condition?
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Old 11-25-2011, 01:47 AM
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Well, first off, I know these things can get to you mentally really bad. I think that we have all been there at one point another with a gun that wasn't working for us. Just take a step back from it, relax and breathe. Changing from whatever power to 24 power will not change your POI unless your scope is jacked up. But it will make it seem like you are moving around a lot when looking throug the scope and trying to shoot. But I don't buy the fact that you can put the parallax to infinity for any range and it won't matter. I would adjust it to whatever range you need and shoot it consistently.

It is hard to diagnos this kind of problem over the internet. Try this:

Shoot at 100 with the parallax adjusted for 100 yds, then 200 adj. for 200 yd parallax then 300 and see how it goes.

If that doesn't fix it, change the scope and do the same thing. If it shoots just as bad with the second scope then you can eliminate the scope being the problem. If it shoots as you want it too then you KNOW the scope is the problem and you can go from there. Just keep posting the results.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:02 AM
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True, if you are holding your head in the exact same place each time.

So the bullet holes are all round and not oblong at all correct? And you are shooting in a no wind condition?
Zero wind. Bullet holes are all round. I would think that lead sled or not, repeatablility when looking through the scope on or off the scope would always have to be the same, and I don't really see a any difference when looking through using sled or bags. You still have to hold your head the same either way. Good point though. I will try tomorrow and take your advice. Thanks.
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Old 11-25-2011, 02:05 AM
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Also, I keep seeing post about, "adjust your scope parellax to 200 yards, or whatever range your shooting at." How in the heck do I adjust it to 200 yards or other yardages? I just set up at whatever distance, look through the scope, turn it to where its clear, and aim, fire. There are no yardage numbers on the dial, but there are marks. Where is 200, 300, etc...? Whether its 50 yards or 300 yards, I turn it to where its clear. How do I achieve the correct setting for a set yardage then? Thanks.
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Zero wind. Bullet holes are all round. I would think that lead sled or not, repeatablility when looking through the scope on or off the scope would always have to be the same, and I don't really see a any difference when looking through using sled or bags. You still have to hold your head the same either way. Good point though. I will try tomorrow and take your advice. Thanks.
I was talking about two different things. Holding your head in exactly the same spot would be necessary to shoot good groups with a scope out of parallax.

The way the gun recoils off the sled deals more with changes in barrel movement before the bullet leaves the barrel. I noticed in a previous post you mentioned that someone had told you that you didn't need to worry about this because the bullet is already gone. Not true. Follow through is just as important with a rifle as it is with a bow.

Picture the gun changing POI because it comes off the sled differently the same way you do with archery and your bow grip. You can see the same sight picture through your peep sight and pins but shoot way different groups just because of the way the bow recoils off your hand. This is similar to the gun rest and grip on a rifle.
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