About 12 years ago I shot a really nice mule deer buck at about 550 yards with my 338 win mag loaded with 225 barnes x bullets. I hit the deer perfect behind the shoulder and it took off. I hit it again and the deer disappeared. I looked for the deer all day long and finally saw it walking about 1000 yards away. It vanished and I couldn't find it. The next day when I had almost given up, I found the deer. Both bullets had pencilled the buck. No expansion and no wound channel. I don't know the cause of this, but the bullets didn't expand. I killed another deer at about 300 yards and it never took a step, but the bullet hit bone in the neck. I had one other kill with the barnes x that baffled me and it was a doe that I shot in the head, looking straight at me at about 150 yards killed her dead, but the bullet didn't exit.
On the plus side, I killed several elk one year with 210 gr xlc barnes bullets shot out of my 338 rum. Both were one shot kills, one at 200 yards, and the other was a finishing shot on a cow that my brother had hit in the ham with a 7 mag, at about 550 yards that broke both shoulders dropping her on the spot. I recovered the bullet on that shot and 3 petals were intact, perfect mushroom and it was in the far shoulder.
The main reason I stopped shooting the x bullet was that my factory barrel on my 338 rum went bad and the new douglas didn't like the barnes or a lot of other bullets. We will see how my new broughton barrel likes the 225 tts later this week.
Remington model 700 300 RUM LH 26" rem ss/blued receiver lam stock 215 Berger @3025/180 NAB @3300
Remington model 700 338 RUM LH 27" Broughton 5C 225NAB@3300 /300gr Berger@2830
Savage LH 22-250
I dont know about visitors, but resident hunters in British Columbia put in for an limited entry hunt in the spring or fall. I know multiple people that have taken Grizz on there own. In fact I've never met anyone that has been guided for one.
I gotta look at these TTSX's. maybe thats gonna be the ticket. Have any of you guys got your hands on the Hornandy GMX's?
Since every bullet from every manufacturor in the world has failed in one way or away at some point in time, I fail to see your concern
My concern is that I have not used them and have got mixed reports back about their performance.
I may wish to give them a try in the future and would like to hear from other hunters about their experiences with them. Either good or bad.
Sure all bullets can fail, but if there is a trend of failure with a particular bullet then I would like to know about it.
I have a 338/416 Rigby Imp, with a 34"Lilja barrel and a orginal Vias brake I bought from George. This rifle has taken 33 antalope, 3 elk and 6 mule deer since about 1997. I have tested lots of different bullets, still always coming back to the Sierra 300 Gr matchking. On goats, I have taken 3 beyond 1200 yds and the wound is still quite large with large organs pulled out the exit wound. Two of the elk were cows shot @ 656 yards and both a little angled with the exit being just beyond the last rib. In both cases the liver was pulled thru the exit wound. I have used the Nosler AB 160 in a 7mm Rem Mag on a large 6x6 bull in Idaho at 787 yds and in was just under the hide on the off side, speed at impact was later measured at 1738 fps. When I was an outfitter in Idaho, I saw some bullets that were too slow in opening up, and we had game that we had to track and finish off, where a lighter constructed bullets might have put them down right there. We have to hit them in the right spot, AND use a bullet that has the weight and/or construction to pentrate. Sierra has told me many times not to use the Matchkings on any game. Ihad used a 30-378 I had build in '79 on a Ruger #3 with a 30" Douglas barrel to kill a 5x5 bull at about 600 yds in the Selway. The bullet was a Gameking at about 3400 fps. The same load blacken a whole front shoulder on a muley buck the same trip. The 300Gr Matchkings shot longways thru goats with the lead core exiting and sometimes the jacket being hung in the wound channel somewhere. So what does this tell me? Use a heavy weight bullet for the diameter, and one that will shoot well in your rifle and business will pick up. Anyway these are rambling thoughts on performance. Good hunting!!!!
Last edited by Ron Johnson; 11-03-2009 at 11:32 PM.