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Old 08-24-2013, 04:05 PM
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leadsled help please

relatively new to shooting. bought a leadsled to aid in sighting in rifle. if the sled is setup right and you use proper paralax setting on scope then it shouldn't matter to much about proper eye sight through scope as the paralax should aid in this...right? if so...is there reason why I'm getting bad groups at 100 yards...4 inches...Also this is new ammo I was trying...federal premium in 165. so maybe it's the ammo but dang 4 inch groups at 100 yards...is it the sled...the ammo?
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:28 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

Welcome to the shooting world, esp in LRH!

I have very good success with lead sled during sight-in/load development. The only thing I do not like is that I cannot get a good cheek weld. However, when I'm satisfied with the load, I fine tune it using shooting bags and finalize it with my shooting set-up (bipod) and shooting position (prone).

Shoot without the lead sled to isolate it (process of elimination), if it remains the same, then it's not the sled ...

How did it shot with old ammo? Some rifles just shoots better with a certain load ... that's why most of us load our own to fine tune it with a specific rifle.

It's a start, perhaps more info will unfold and others will chime to help you.

Good luck!
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Old 08-24-2013, 04:40 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

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Welcome to the shooting world, esp in LRH!

I have very good success with lead sled during sight-in/load development. The only thing I do not like is that I cannot get a good cheek weld. However, when I'm satisfied with the load, I fine tune it using shooting bags and finalize it with my shooting set-up (bipod) and shooting position (prone).

Shoot without the lead sled to isolate it (process of elimination), if it remains the same, then it's not the sled ...

How did it shot with old ammo? Some rifles just shoots better with a certain load ... that's why most of us load our own to fine tune it with a specific rifle.

It's a start, perhaps more info will unfold and others will chime to help you.

Good luck!
well first I tried shooting bags but I'm not good enough to group well on my own...I was getting about Mmoa at 100 so I read a sledhead can help with keeping things steady to determine which load my gun shoots the best
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:03 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

Thus far, the only thing we now is you're a relatively new shooter ... and to be good at it does not happen overnight, stick to basic shooting fundamentals, be patient, and practice, practice, practice ...

I understand that you're using new ammo but it's unclear if this is your 1st time shooting it.

There are lots of members here that are always willing and able to help but you need to provide as many helpful information that you can possibly pass on.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:18 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

sorry I will try and explain better. I'm not exactly new to shooting...I've hunted the past couple years with father in law and have shot those rifles a bit. now I finally bought my own new Browning bolt 300wsm. I know you have to sometimes try lots of ammo to find what shoots best. well I no on the other rifles I shot that my father inlaw would shoot half moa...same rifle and ammo and setup and I'dggett moa so obviously he shoots better than me. so to try and eliminate some shooter error I wanted to buy a leadsled which I did. so I shot it today with two different ammo. one I shot previously but only to get the gun on paper. the other I haven't shot at all. so I shot the 150 grain federal premium ballistic tip and got about 1in group at 100 yards. I then tried the federal premium 165 grain nickel plated trophy tips and I got that 4inch group which is rally bad. this is on the leadsled...I had my scope at the proper paralax...and I heard the xbolts get moa with almost any ammo so I was surprised I got a 4inch group with the 165 trophy tips. just seeing if the leadsled can cause this or if simply my gun hates the 165 trophy tips.
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:47 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

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sorry I will try and explain better. I'm not exactly new to shooting...I've hunted the past couple years with father in law and have shot those rifles a bit. now I finally bought my own new Browning bolt 300wsm. I know you have to sometimes try lots of ammo to find what shoots best. well I no on the other rifles I shot that my father inlaw would shoot half moa...same rifle and ammo and setup and I'dggett moa so obviously he shoots better than me. so to try and eliminate some shooter error I wanted to buy a leadsled which I did. so I shot it today with two different ammo. one I shot previously but only to get the gun on paper. the other I haven't shot at all. so I shot the 150 grain federal premium ballistic tip and got about 1in group at 100 yards. I then tried the federal premium 165 grain nickel plated trophy tips and I got that 4inch group which is rally bad. this is on the leadsled...I had my scope at the proper paralax...and I heard the xbolts get moa with almost any ammo so I was surprised I got a 4inch group with the 165 trophy tips. just seeing if the leadsled can cause this or if simply my gun hates the 165 trophy tips.
No two rifle of the same model and chambering will shoot the same, each are unique.

Does yours come with the BOSS? If so, you need to tune it for the 165 even though it shot well with the 150.

Do you have somebody that can help you shoot and see if you yield the same result?
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Old 08-24-2013, 06:47 PM
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Re: leadsled help please

I like my sled too but I was getting some wierd hits every third shot or so. I decided to put my bipod on and shoot from a rear bag. By doing this I can feel and handle the recoil the same way everytime. Try shooting from your sled, then from a bipod. It's amazing the difference.
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