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This & That....A Layman's Long Range Rifle?

 
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Old 02-06-2002, 11:16 AM
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This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Hey guys, Here is my situation. 4 kids and
paying for there education precludes me now
of buying into a custom L/R bench rifle.

But I am looking into a "What is the best setup" for long range hunting with ranges of between 700 & 1,000 yards. I'm looking into a factory rifle with some minor tuneups to the rifle.

I live out west and hunt Wa, Or, & Az, coues (cows) deer to Wapiti. I want a rifle I can
carry (somewhat.) I'm 6'1 and 200# and in
pretty good shape and don't mind packing,
when I have to.

I have a Leupold 8.5x25x50 Target scope with
fine crosshairs with QD rings and mounts for
a Rem 700 Varmit. This can be changed of course.

What Rifle, Cartridge, and bullet recomindations would you have? and any other
ideas for this project.

Thanks!
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Old 02-06-2002, 02:29 PM
 
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Bob- I'll second Boyd's comments. I have a 338 Ultra in a Remington Sendero and it is an outstanding rifle for the money spent. It looks like you have "the scope" so you're already ahead. The 338 Ultra does well with the 300 MK and the 250 gameking. The only drawback to it would be the recoil. It's pretty stiff for target shooting without a brake installed. The 300 Ultra maybe a better choice using either the 220 or 240 MK's.

Good luck.
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Old 02-06-2002, 02:31 PM
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Bob Metcalf

If you don't mind me asking you about the fine crosshair, I would like to know how well do you see the fine crosshair at long range, sunrise/sunset conditions and dark colour trees at long range?
I'm planning to purchase Leupold 6.5x20x50 with a fine crosshair. If it is a bad choice, then I'll go for Leupold dot. Email me if you wish.

I'd start with 7mm RUM and up. I think 300 RUM would be a fine choice for deer and elk up to 1000 yards. Also need good bedding for more accuracy. Unsure about the factory barrel. It might be good or maybe not.
-DG
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Old 02-06-2002, 03:15 PM
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Me? 300 Tomahawk.I have a 6.5 to 20 Nikon with the fine x-hair.The only problem I've had is on real sunny day's.And only if the sun was right in my face.As for the factory barrel.All the Sendero's I've seen shot very well.
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Old 02-06-2002, 03:54 PM
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Hello Me?

I really like the Leopold under all conditions. I don't have a problem seeing
anything with the fine's at any time of
day. I did own a dot in a 6x20 but did not
like it, so I went back to the fine crosshair.
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Old 02-06-2002, 04:10 PM
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

Thank's for the respones everybody.

I do have another question though.

I did own a 700 in 300 win mag with a 26"
tube. I long throated it and seated the
bullets to kiss the lands I was using 180
NBTs and 80 grains of 7828. I was getting
just a hair over 3,300 with this load.
With 220 NPs I could get 2,950. This was
with NO signs of pressure. WHY? I am using
20 grains less powder to get near the same
velocity of a 300 RUM. Why go to the RUM
again when I can do this?
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Old 02-06-2002, 05:44 PM
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Re: This & That....A Layman\'s Long Range Rifle?

DG, I have used a fine crosshair for coyote hunting in many different conditions and I have to say you will run into times when you can't see well enough to shoot accurately. Even well befoe the end of legal hunting hours and at close range. In some conditions you won't be able to see even a heavy duplex. Often you can see the crosshair until you put it on the animal - then NOTHING. Dark on Dark just doesn't work. Of course, there are a lot of different things you can do to light up the crosshairs, like glow sticks, but these tricks don't always work out as planned. I'm not saying don't go with a fine cross hair if you need it, but have a back up plan just in case.

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